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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 11, 2012 - 08:53am PT
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You mean that a predator in the outdoors was actually killed?
Noooo--the inhumanity of it all!!!
That wolf was supposed to live in the Mammoth Employee Dorms for the rest of its retired life...
...collar and all.
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Dec 11, 2012 - 09:10am PT
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She was a beautiful wolf. I got to watch her on several occasions. Sad to see her killed this way. On a positive note, her death has re-energized the pro-wolf crowd. This story has made the international news circuit. Yesterday Montana closed the wolf hunting season on the north side of Yellowstone due to the number of study wolves killed.
There has also been a news release about California's lone wolf. Sorry I don't have time to link that story.
Oh yeah, a friend just told me that her pack, the Lamar Canyons, are back in their home territory of the Lamar valley.
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:25am PT
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People who hunt suck. What kinda POS would shoot a collared wolf?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:31am PT
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Totally justified...a man's gotta put food on the table...
POS.
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bigwall shitter
Social climber
the wild west
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:36am PT
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I'm a liberal and a hunter. Hunting is great. It's like a climbing approach except instead of busting your ass to get in to the mountain you're walking around quietly looking around for animals. Plus, there's nothing quite like shooting and butchering an animal yourself and then eating it all winter. The statement that all hunters suck seems pretty ignorant.
Last year the MT wolf population grew 15% even with the hunts. They're dogs, they reproduce faster than the average crowd of rifle totin' (mostly) males can kill them. I think the hunts are fantastic. The wolves continue to thrive while placating most of the ranchers and farmers who are actually affected by the reintroduced wolf population, unlike (to quote rockjox) you kommies from kalifornia. Seriously, most people shouldn't give a f*#k all how wolves are managed, their life will not change either way.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:42am PT
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Seriously, most people shouldn't give a f*#k all how wolves are managed, they're life will not change either way.
Same goes for genocides on some other continent, but I still choose to care. It is amazing any of these animals survived before man came along to "manage" them...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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There used to be wolves throughout the country. They belong as part of a healthy ecology.
Although hunters raises more money for conservation than all the granola crunching Sierra clubbers, I think we need to bring them back, so there should be a hunting moratorium until then.
But it was a legal hunt. The collar was returned. (It wouldn't have looked good on the wall anyway.)
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:54am PT
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Calling a human just another predator to justify killing (oops, I mean 'harvesting') is silly.
Can a human even run down a deer and kill it with it's own hands, teeth?
Does this said human predator even live in the same environment?
Does this human predator have no other choices to live?
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Dec 11, 2012 - 10:57am PT
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^^False choice^^
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bigwall shitter
Social climber
the wild west
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:00am PT
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Same goes for genocides on some other continent, but I still choose to care. It is amazing any of these animals survived before man came along to "manage" them...
A genocide results in the loss of human life. A managed hunt on wolves results in around 200 dead wolves per state -MT, ID, WY- a year (at least in the last couple years).
I already said this but you seem to have missed it. Most people in those three states passionately hate wolves, I have heard people proudly tell stories of how they killed wolves without a tag. These hunts allow these people to be partially satisfied (they'd rather each and every wolf was dead) while allowing the overall population to grow.
Last year there were 2 wolves that were hit by cars in my county, THEY'RE back.
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bigwall shitter
Social climber
the wild west
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:03am PT
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I don't hunt wolves, I think they're great for the ecosystem but more importantly I have no desire to spend that much time looking for a animal that will only provide me with a pelt if I shoot it.
Elk burgers though, now those are delicious.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:07am PT
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Yeah, humans can run animals to heat exhaustion in hot weather, but they don't kill them with their hands, teeth. We sweat, but they can't.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:13am PT
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Is that really such a hard concept for you mono? Ever seen a deer? They ain't all Towering bambi's. And they're all sprinters, not joggers.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:17am PT
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Yep, I can imagine some sick human killing a trusting baby deer with his hands, teeth.
What's the point again? That means one is entitled to kill anything with guns and justify it as natural predator behavior?
And show me a human running down a deer in cool weather like a predator can.
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DPerret
Trad climber
Bay Area, California
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:19am PT
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The problem isn't that a single animal was killed. Wolves will continue to thrive in the GYE without 832.
The problem is that killing a collared animal like 832 represents a huge loss of time, money, and data for the folks over at the Yellowstone Wolf Project. It doesn't matter what your politics are... its just plain disrespectful to ignore the investment that others have made.
8 radio-collared wolves have been killed in the northern range. Who's to say that hunters aren't tracking them by radio? What a sense of sportsman-ship.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:26am PT
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Just curious, how many of you eat beef or chicken?
It seems unfair to decry hunting when the way we treat other animals in our society is infinitely worse.
Granted, it seems unacceptable to knowingly kill a collared animal.
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BlackSpider
Ice climber
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:27am PT
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Seriously, most people shouldn't give a f*#k all how wolves are managed, their life will not change either way.
Seriously, most people shouldn't give a f*#k all if climbing routes are bolted or chipped, their life will not change either way.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 11, 2012 - 11:29am PT
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Stupid Americans only know how to kill everything they touch these days everywhere they go and around the world .....
Quack
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