Dark night in Aurora, CO

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List

This thread has been locked

Messages 41 - 60 of total 321 in this topic

<< First | < Previous | Show All | Next > | Last >>

karodrinker

Trad climber

San Jose, CA

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:09pm PT

I have shot guns, plenty of em. Actually have an uncanny ability to shoot. But I don't own any, and I wish the world would melt all the guns ever made into a giant memorial.

We need to evolve beyond violence. There is no justification for gun violence.

climbski2

Mountain climber

Anchorage AK, Reno NV

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:09pm PT

Regardless the cat has been out of the bag for centuries.

There are a lot worse tragedies going on every day in this country.

We lose a lot more people due to lack of access to medicine than all the shooters in the history of this nation. Including it's wars.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:10pm PT

Ho man, I didn't realize Denver law was so restrictive.

Kind of silly to set the bar at 20.
Lets see, I have 20 (or less rds) clips for;
a 5.7mm
AR
Mini-14
HK91
M14
HK94

but a shotgun can't even have a folding stock or even a 6+ rds magazine??

WTF?

Anyway, if the woman who laid on the floor as hot brass fell on her had pulled a legal piece then she might actually have had a clear shot.
But the less well armed the populace the more the casualties and more the furor.

Same guy tries to rob a liquor store with the same guns, gets legally dropped then maybe it is on page 8 of the local rag.

10b4me

Ice climber

dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:10pm PT

Most people who get concealed
permits probably would have made the situation worse.

Exactly, most(not all) people who have guns think they're Dirty Harry

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:12pm PT

Guns are the worst invention the world has ever seen. So many lives lost, so much pain caused.

true

and that is the exact reason why I carry concealed (with the license) almost everywhere I go

I carry a small lightweight 9mm in an ankle holster, completely forget it is there

I carry it because my wife asks me to

she wants us to have the ability to save ourselves or innocent people around us

go ahead and hate me for carrying a gun, if I never fire in my life that's good by me

edit: and I ain't no "Dirty Harry

climbski2

Mountain climber

Anchorage AK, Reno NV

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:13pm PT

Dirty Harry?

The reality is anyone I hung out with and shot with would have nothing to do with a Dirty Harry type personality.

I've met a few people who I will never allow to have a firearm near me because they were idiots but.. those folks are rare.

Kalimon

Trad climber

Ridgway, CO

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:13pm PT

Seems like there's been an inordinate # of similar shootings in CO...is that just me, or wtf?

You are on to something here. Can anyone remember "Columbine"? These are some really extreme incidents that don't do much for Colorado's image. Is it the altitude?

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:15pm PT

and Columbine is only 25 miles from Aurora where this shooting took place

hoipolloi

climber

A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:17pm PT

Seems really easy to say you (me, you or anyone) would have shot the f*#ker, but I did hear one guy who was there say it started in a big shoot out scene and the theater filled with smoke really fast, nobody realized what was going on at first because of the movie scene...plus the smoke... I'm sure all those there (sounds like there were a few) with weapons would have tried if they could.

this just in

climber

north fork

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:19pm PT

Karo, you make it seem like no one died before guns from violence.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:23pm PT

Silver,
some people just hate plaid.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:24pm PT

Dirty Harry?

I guess I haven't been doing it right, but then I've never been *trained* ( just "drilled" ).

I spent 19 years tending bar in some less-than-genteel joints ( armed more often than not ), and my armed encounters generally involved me running away, hiding, or both.

karodrinker

Trad climber

San Jose, CA

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:25pm PT

I've never met Dean and I'm fairly positive he is a good person and he is just the target of my misguided ranting today. I'm just so fed up with the american gun attitude, like once we all have a gun then we won't have violence anymore.

Guns kill so easily. It takes so much work, love and care to raise a human and then bam. dead because 1 finger moved. It makes me sick, and obviously very angry.

My apologies Cragman. Don't shoot me.

Sparky

Trad climber

vagabond movin on

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:25pm PT

Ho man, I didn't realize Denver law was so restrictive.

Kind of silly to set the bar at 20.

Private ownership of automatic weapons should be removed period. The key to protecting our democracy is not in having heavily armed citizens, but informed ones. However, the argument that freedom isn't free is reasonable. I still believe that privately held auto's would not be a match to our military's advanced weapons.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jul 20, 2012 - 01:29pm PT

Karo, THIS JUST IN...

the mules have escaped the barn and they ain't gonna be rounded up.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Topic Author's Reply - Jul 20, 2012 - 01:39pm PT

Karo, I'm on board with your frustrated sentiments 100%.

Gun-nutz love to justify their nuttery waving the constitution around, saying that if more people had guns there'd be fewer shootings, making stooopid simplified statements like 'freedom isn't free', etc....and the fact is that this country has the highest number of guns per person, and the greatest number of gun-related violence. That's simple, objective fact.

And the gun-related violence continues. And each time, the same tired pro-gun arguments are trotted out. Not a goddam step towards regulation of guns has occurred in the last 10 years, and the violence continues & grows.

"Regardless the cat has been out of the bag for centuries."

Sadly, that's the bottom line. Can't put that cat back in the bag (unless we shoot it first). Gun-nutz would say the way to a 'safer' society is more guns....facts & history suggest otherwise. What to do?