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Newton

Big Wall climber

Apr 12, 2006 - 12:32pm PT

Fair enough, but outside of the elite, wannabees, Gumbs and fools, and it being overcrowded, it is still an unique place. Surely the first time (and subsequent?) you went to the Valley it was an eye-opener. The natural beauty of the place and what it holds in many peoples hearts and minds shouldn't be diminshed by the human impact.

Despite all the negatives it is still wonderful place.

And for sure in my OP I said it was nice. I did not say I did not like it there.

And truth be told, my first time there I was disappointed. Perhaps having come from attempting 5.10's @ 18,000 feet and the trials that go on there made me a bit jaded.

Any climb without Summit Mushrooms is an easy one.

dirtineye

Trad climber

the south

Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2006 - 01:23pm PT

Newt,

You can ask Mr. Noffsinger, Mr. Stegg, or Mr. Corbett, DIRECTLY, about me, and what I have climbed, what I have led, what I have FAed on the sharp end, what I have carried, and how big the last turd I dropped was.

I'm sure they will tell you I climb very slowly.

BTW, Arno is my pal. He climbs way better than I ever will, but we have fun together. I have a feeling that's more than you can say about your associates, if you still have any.

And if you don't mind my saying so, or even if you do, you are a pretentious, self agrandizing, pompous jerk, and I don't give a fvck if you climb 5.14 at 20,000 feet, you'll STILL be one.

You certainly seem like one of the sour-grape-spewing-almost-got-there-bitter-about-it wannabes that make the climbing community a lesser place from time to time.

Newton

Big Wall climber

Apr 12, 2006 - 01:29pm PT

I have spoken and climbed with all of these people you mention. They prefer to not be put on the spot in public. Unlike me, they have a public image of being a person that only says nice things about people and they adhere to the philosophy that whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself is ok so long as no one loses an appendage.

Arno acts as if he does not even know who you are and then after being reminded of your physical appearence says, "Yes, he has held my rope."

~ Newton Forsythe

EDITED TO ADD: I sincerely doubt someone that could not handle HORSEMAN 5.5 at The Shawangunks or the scray and long lines at Peterskill would be able to cope with the exposure in the Valley. Perhaps you could hang out and do laps on Aunt Fanny's Pantry, though. It is a tricky little 5.4 but has some nice rests on it.

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Apr 12, 2006 - 01:42pm PT

"Karl, are you sure that is why Charlie called it the Shield? Werner?"

I was funnin there. It's called the shield because of the Shield like look of the bulging headwall

Peace

Karl

dirtineye

Trad climber

the south

Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2006 - 02:01pm PT

Right Newt.

You are a liar.

I led one uneventful 5.7 in the gunks, and one uneventful 5.5, 12 weeks after breaking my elbow in three places, and while suffering from shingles, caused by slipping on some steps and banging the same arm. Don't remember the names but they are not the climbs you are talking about, but then, you have not been correct once in any of your posts about me so far, so why should I be suprised?

You really think Corbett worries about his nice guy image? LOL, you have never talked to him.

Steg avoids the internet for two reasons: he does not have a computer, and he does not like people like you. He did call me yesterday cause he is my friend though.

I'm not going to drag Arno into this, he is a nice guy, and he is my friend. I'll be seeing him again soon, so I'll be sure to ask about you.

You know newt, you brought up honor, do you have any? Lying is not honorable.

I'm sorry that it bothers you that a lot of the old guard climbers in the south are my friends, and that I've been able to have a great time climbing with them.

I'm truly sorry that you can't handle that Bob Cormany and I hit it off the day we met, and that the same happened with Steg, Okel, Ilgner, Noffsinger, and Corbett.

Alright newt, hope you enjoyed your little chain yanking, even thoug it tends to make you look like a permanent turd in the punch bowl. I should probably thank you though, because every time some dumbass like you comes along, I wind up with a lot of new friends.

Do your worst!

Newton

Big Wall climber

Apr 12, 2006 - 02:13pm PT

dirtineye: whatever you need to do or say to feel better about yourself, have at it. I happened to be standing at the base when you were bitching and yelling at your partner (who posts here, but has a fear that prevents him/her from outing you) and treating them with total disdain that day at Peterskill (which is not even the Gunks). You couldn't even handle the Trapps.

You had major meltdown on that 5.6 climb, braj. Major.

After spending almost a week there you climbed all of two routes and then proceeded to denigrate the place as being a useless pile of choss. Maybe if you could kick the alcohol you might have better memory of what you actually did/did not do.

You are a name dropper and nothing more. You have been climbing less than five years and continue to sell yourself as the OLD GUARD (whatever that means). I feel empathy for those that climb with you because each and every one has told me the same exact stories. MELTDOWNS. GLOBAL WARMING!! Likes to attack his partners and blame them for his failures.

I defy any person here that has climbed with this phony to speak up and counter these statements.

I await a cogent and articulate reply, but fear there will be a Liberal Women Democrat in the Oval office before I ever get one.

~ Newton Forsythe

PS: C ya! Headed out for six week jaunty. I'll catch up when I get back Stateside in late May.

dirtineye

Trad climber

the south

Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2006 - 02:21pm PT

That's funny, since the only being at the base of the climb Terrie led at Peterskill was her dog, Teddy. I didn't lead anything at Peterskill, and we didn't climb a 5.6 at the gunks.

Nice try, keep on spinning. You are bound to get warm sooner or later. Although it would be hard for anyone to match your record of complete inaccuracy thus far.

You are starting to sound a bit like Richard, cept I don't think he would be so venal.

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California now Ireland

Apr 12, 2006 - 04:10pm PT

Karl, that is as I thought, but then you never know, that's why I asked. Cheers

Newton, I guess I'll never see you in the Valley, eh?

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Apr 12, 2006 - 05:55pm PT

A few months back I posted a thread inviting people to flame me and I didn't get much response. Maybe having a budding flame war on a thread with my name on it will have to do.

About Yosemite. I first did the Nose in 1981 and it was plenty crowded even then. Even so, I've jumped on many a mega-classic route in Yosemite with nobody around.

Everyplace has some negatives

~ The Karakorum.

Red Tape, Political Issues, High expense, freezing ass cold, high objective danger, LONG approaches, foreign language

~ The Himalaya

Red Tape, High expense, freezing ass cold, high objective danger, LONG approaches, mostly crap rockclimbing, foreign language

~ Patagonia

High expense, freezing ass cold, Terrible weather likely, high objective danger, LONG approaches, foreign language

~ Baffin Island.

High expense, freezing ass cold, Terrible weather likely, high objective danger, LONG approaches, Man eating Polar Bears, breaking sea ice, foreign language?

But to each his or her own. Let's spread the bad word about Yosemite to everyone except my partners.

Peace

karl

WBraun

climber

Apr 12, 2006 - 06:02pm PT

Yeah Yosemite sucks, terrible rock and schity climbing.

I hear it's good climbing in Kansas.

Slakkey

Trad climber

San Diego

Apr 12, 2006 - 06:06pm PT

Karl, Werner

One mans or womans trash is another ones treasure, Yosemite is still a treasure

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Apr 12, 2006 - 06:32pm PT

Karl, I gather you don't like the cold...

...and the old quip: there are three type of speakers, multilingual, bilingual and american... seems to hold here. Of course, I'm as guilty as the next 'merican...

Sioux Juan

Big Wall climber

Costa Mexico

Apr 12, 2006 - 06:34pm PT

Hey Karl,

Sioux Juan was out because I was in control of his pc but now i'm giving it back.

Later

dirtineye

Trad climber

the south

Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2006 - 07:04pm PT

Well, fig-boy not withstanding, it looks like any climbing trip or even visiting trip is out for now.

My favorite woman in the world, my oncologist, not only refused to divorce her husband and marry me (I TOLD her she could have him back in a few months when I'm dead, but you know how women are) but she said I was starting chemo Monday. HAHA,I thought I woudl ahave a few mroe weeks, but she says that woudl mean metastaic diseas, nas she want's toi hit it hard now. She's really smart (see fact taht she won't divorce hubby and run off with me) and I trust her, so I have to do what she says (see girls, I'm obedient, hint hint).

UGH. I HATE CHEMO.

THis time, it's Camptosar and a new one, a monoclonal antibody. I've had camptosar before, and man is it ever fun. Lose all your hair, and I mean all of it everywhere, sh!t your guts out religiously, and just generaly feel like shyte. Maybe the worst thing, since Marinol does stop the otherwise incessant nausia, is losing your eye lashes. You can do with out all the other hair, some hair loss even has funny side effects, ( farting with no hair is rather interesting, since the farts will crawl around all weird between your legs and buttcheeks looking for a way out. somehow the hair makes this easy, LOL) but when you lose your eyelashes, EVERYGODDAMN THING gets in your eyes.

I thought I would make a counter offer though.

If any of you guys out west would like to visit here, maybe we could get to the BSF and you could climb with some of my pals. Or bring your own partner. I doubt I'll be able to climb anything, especially not BSF stuff, after a few weeks of this drug.

I'll be stuck to short trips, since I have to get the drugs once a week.

And if I do recover from this, (there are no statistics, what I have is rare, and it's still in there) I think I will go see this valley of which you speak. ANd I hope I meet some of you. Cause you asll (except for ONE GUY, guess which one?) seem really nice.

mark miller

Social climber

Reno

Apr 12, 2006 - 09:41pm PT

It's gonna be hard to bag on Karl... I ran into him a couple of years ago at the Cookie w/ Nor Cal. They were in front of us on the same route. He was nice, humorous and considerate and cruised that damnable Bevs Tower pitch. ( thing still gets my panties in a wad.) Damn that Gentleman Baba....

golsen

Social climber

kennewick, wa

Apr 12, 2006 - 11:17pm PT

Werner,
despite everything you may have heard about Kansas, there aint much rock there. Trust me on that one...

Dirt, good luck to you dude, I hopes those chems do the trick. And dont worry about whats his name. Seems as though he may have been a bit full of hisself...