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yosguns
climber
Paris, France
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Jan 26, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
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Thanks, for the translation, RJ. I didn't get it because of the your/you're thing.
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apogee
climber
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Jan 26, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
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dmons = war?
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yosguns
climber
Paris, France
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Jan 26, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
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By RJ, I meant Rox. Is RJ someone else? Could you (Rox) be RJ?
EDIT: Uh oh, I sort of feel like calling you...Cutesy Wootsy RJ Muffin (or CWRJM). And so it will be from this day on.
Man, I need some sleep!!! :)
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jan 26, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
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Seemed like the Valley and the Meadows were all trippy Hippy, rad-lib and higher consciousness until about the time of the first Reagan Presidency c. 1980. Then, the rhetoric started changing and becoming more hard work, individual initiative, free-will kinda self-reliant talk you were hearing more and more about then. That was when you started to encounter climbers, mostly from out-of-state, largely from the Mid-West, who were actually Republicans. Before 1980, no way.
So the swing to the right on ST is really a function of that political shift in society itself that began as a reaction against the Anti-War & Civil Rights movements of the 60s that concentrated and became stereotyped in the local High Schools during the 70s. Seems suspicious that the swing to the right also coincided with the beginning of the decline of manufacturing jobs in the US along with the decline of the American middle-class and the rise of the super-rich.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 26, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
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dmons = war?
yeah, Apogee
sure seems like him
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 26, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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^^^
Been reading Chomsky, Bruce?
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jan 26, 2012 - 03:32pm PT
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Never read Chomsky, Wayno, except for his linguistics text book on syntactic binary structures, an elegant postscript to Russell's logical positivist failed but brilliant attempt to reconcile logic with mathematics in the 1930s. Oh there were reactionaries way back when in the 1950s during the height of McCarthyism to be sure. But it wasn't until about 1980 that they started appearing in the climbing community and opening their mouths and shouting. That's also when you started hearing the hand-me-down Neo-Liberal rhetoric of the University of Chicago School of Economics being repeated by the masses and in the media, who of course were largely unaware of its point of origin in a Republican think tank. Little pitchers have big ears! Well, look on the bright side, at least Milton Friedman is finally dead and buried in his grave. But his Big Bad Ideas continue to live on long after him:
Privatization: Privatize government functions and sell them off to the highest bidder (i.e. to your campaign contributors/cronies)
Deregulation: Let the investment counselors, stock brokers and bankers live off the fat of the land. Let the good times roll!
Cuts in education and social spending: That way you can create a huge docile work force that will accept lower pay and keep education out of the hands of the lower and middle classes so they won't talk back to their "betters".
Of course, if mommy and daddy don't have two pensions each and top-dollar medical and dental plans, their "kids" don't turn on, tune in, drop out and join protest groups. Hence, if you destroy middle-class prosperity you've made sure there's no one out there to oppose the plutocracy.
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