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Karl Baba
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Yosemite, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2011 - 03:17am PT
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Such BS about Iran hijacking the drone...
We've been really upfront that we're doing covert ops on Iran, funding dissidents, and spying the the place, cataloging targets in case we want to attack.
And yet somehow we have to deny we fly spy missions over the place and consider it ridiculous if westerners are caught roaming around there.
Who knows about that but hey, if they got a drone, it's more likely they just got a drone
peace
Karl
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2011 - 03:23am PT
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Well if Iran is attacked, apparently China has said it will defend Iran.
Messed up.
In other words, China is just like us, since they gets lots of Oil from Iran and we get lots of Oil from Saudi Arabia, even though most the hijackers were Saudi, 9-11 money was traced back into Saudi Hands and yet we sell them Billions in Weapons, even advanced Jet fighters
Peace
Karl
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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If Tehran is capable of reaching out and guiding an American stealth drone into landing from a distance, it may also be able to control the systems of other aircraft, manned or unmanned.
The drones use C-band line-of-sight or Ku-band satellite data links for piloting. Earlier this year it was discovered the Predator system was infected with a logging virus that logged pilot keystrokes and commands. This was dismissed as internal DoD code. In light of this drone incident I'd say that analysis was likely untrue. Further, a shite laptop was captured that was chock full of [unencrypted] predator video feeds nabbed with a russian program called skygrabber.
I'd say over all it's quite possible all our drones are operating with way out-of-date software that's full of holes and very weak encryption (for performance reasons). Skygrabbed sat piloting feeds could easily have been sent to Tehran for analysis; there is no shortage of bright boys and girls to work it all out. And really, once you had it, you could use an off-the-shelf Microsoft Flight Simulator version of the predator to practice flying it.
Kind of an embarrassing tit-for-tat for the virus we gave their uranium centrifuges, if that's what went down. So where could the Iranians have gotten the idea in the first place? In reality, it's not that uncommon a deal.
The Great Brazilian Sat-Hack Crackdown:
But fear not for manned aircraft; they are not drones and can't be hijacked in this manner.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Well, it appears the Iranians were telling the truth. That, or they reworked and repainted the batmobile.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Good one. Pretty much a wrap on that. Whisked straight out of the air under our noses - doesn't get slicker than that. That baby will be in China next week.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 15, 2011 - 07:10pm PT
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The Iranians are even more clever than I thought - they didn't need to infect, intercept, or take control of the drone to hijack it.
They merely had to jam the remote-control signal which forced the drone onto its auto-pilot, after that they then spoofed the GPS signal and got it to deliver itself to the coordinates of their choosing.
Now that's some very clever boys and girls...
US Sentinel Drone Fooled Into Landing With GPS Spoofing
"Following up on the earlier Slashdot story, the Christian Science Monitor now reports that GPS spoofing was used to get the RQ-170 Sentinel Drone to land in Iran. According to an Iranian engineer quoted in the article, 'By putting noise [jamming] on the communications, you force the bird into autopilot. This is where the bird loses its brain.' Apparently, once it loses its brain, the bird relies on GPS signals to get home. By spoofing GPS, Iranian engineers were able to get the drone to 'land on its own where we wanted it to, without having to crack the remote-control signals and communications.'"
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