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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Aug 16, 2011 - 11:22pm PT
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didn't Wade Icey already call this a troll?
Wade said it was a troll.. and I've seen just enough idiocrity to bite..
The OP'ers integrity should be call dint question with the statements just above.
I find a few things wrong with them.
OP'er writes "Who sold those people that we bought?"
 Right. That's a good argument and a good point only if ones own history is taken into consideration. A general reading of a history book might do the OP'er some good, but then again… is that integrity factor that may go missing. For instance, I believe when America was first being started it was the Spanish that landed (or at least that is the pop culture legend every has been taught in school). Then eventually the British play a hand in establishing more and more of the American territory. Well, the people who rich enough to own land in the New World (your type I suppose) had to have labor to tend the new lands, and to bring the drinks when times were hot and steamy.
You may have a point in saying "I did not personally play a role in bringing captured African to the New World", but you'd be just a right in saying "I do nothing to acknowledge it as a fact: that entire continents of people with different skin color than yours were captured and taken from their lands and brought to do hard labor under someone else's rule".
Not saying that you have to wear it on your shirt, you don't have to bow down in shame when you are approached by an African American, but you could understand that if this was your family history, you may have a totally different perspective than you have at this moment.
"Are they given a blank redemption card, or a forgiveness?"
No, nobody needs to bring up the captures and shippers of the slaves… except you may need to in order to attention away from you ineptitude.
"What Paul said is accurate too. "
Blue -This means nothing unless you reenforce whatever point was made by paul. Agreeing that something someone wrote says nothing about your understanding up what was written, and who know you could be dyslexic and could have read it backwards for all we know.
"So after 250 years I gotta feel some f*#king pain???"
Stop with the "I'm a victim here" BS. Nobody says anyone today should "feel some pain" for what happened hundreds, wait I guess that was hundreds of years ago that slavery was abolished.. but it took a long time to get it through to your kind in the south.
And they're still kicking and screaming about it. Idiots.
"We have a f*#king black president, man. It can't be too bad if 'you actually want it'."
This statement supposes a lot. Should I assume that you think that because there is a black president that the entire American/African history is just wiped away? Mighty nice of you whitey. When you say it can't be too bad.. is this to assume that the playing field is level for all starting from birth? Should we get into a statistical battle to see that a black child has a greater chance of being diagnosed with sickle-cell disease than a white one does?
And if you do think that its an even field tell me when it gets bumped in an African-Americans favor.. like when does it become more difficult for whitey to live and work….. How about this (and I know I've lost you already) but… when was the last time you heard of a white man being racially profiled?
"They'd rather play the victim card with the urging of whores like Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, and Sheila Jackson Lee."
That's just cheap. So I counter with Donald Trump, David Duke and Colonel Sanders.
BTW Who's playing the victim card now that you dropped this little bomb on a climbing website?
"Bill Cosby had it right. Pull up you pants and get a f*#king job, or at least try!!!!"
I see. You're okay with a funny black man, but one that wants to assert some shred of dignity and/or respect not only themselves but to their collective race.. that's a no no? Shameful.
"I no longer feel bad for minorities."
No one says you should.
"They have been encouraged by the left to remain lame. Feed off the system…"
You are talking about minorities, right? Because the same could be said for you, too.
Cheers
Done with the troll
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 16, 2011 - 11:24pm PT
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The "Mayor Nutter" referred to in the OP kind of makes one wonder.
Add: "Nutter: A crazy or eccentric person. Slang."
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2011 - 11:27pm PT
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You are such a racist as#@&%e. The sad thing is, you are too stupid to realize it.
So I'm probably more smart, by your definition, to accept shunning a job and education, and instead resort to random anarchistic gang-looting to achieve wealth and goods?
That makes sense...
In fact, with your level of "intelligence" and "insight" I bet you even convince yourself that you are discriminated against because you are white.
Well, you're partially correct there. Isn't Affirmative Action, as a law, essentially reverse discrimination in this day and age????
EDIT:
The "Mayor Nutter" referred to in the OP kind of makes one wonder.
About what???
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2011 - 11:42pm PT
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Oh!!! An Edit from the coward!!!!;
And Cosby... yeah, his dad probably belonged to the first generation of blacks that were ALLOWED to get a job. Search... yup, joined the Navy in the '40s. He might have even had equal rights and been treated like a human being, if he was in the Navy after 1948.
You are an ignorant fukhead.
So Cosby's family back in the 40's was THE ONLY F*#KING PRIVILEGED BLACKS????
You make my point. People that wanted to progress did. And they fought, like most immigrants do, to achieve. Like my grandfather.
Keep your slavery, racist crap in check, Johnson. There were many immigrants who came here who fought through tough times. To say that I owe black people something now is ridiculous. How long does it take to have handouts until you get yer sh#t together and accept some responsibility for your actions and your life, and the lives of your kids!!!
Keep calling me racist, but prominent black leaders feel the same way I do. DO SOMETHING!!! QUIT BEING A VICTIM!!!!!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 16, 2011 - 11:55pm PT
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It's okay Bluering...Weschrist is just projecting..don't get angry...he needs our support...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:12am PT
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"Suck it up black folk, you've been seen as actual human beings instead of property and/or inferior animals for over 50 years now... time to make something of yourself." -blurring, the uber-tard
Well, you just put words into my my mouth I never spoke...
"actual human beings"? I thought they were "property" a post ago?
You will twist this argument to portray people as racists as far as you can. And you call yourself 'educated', while twisting people's words to suit your lies.
You are a typical liberal. Race-baiting when you have no other argument for black youths running wild. It's all whitey's fault from 50 or 250 years ago. We been holdin' down the black folk.
In actuality, it's probably people like you more than me holding them back. I have more in common than you do.
But that doesn't fit your model, does it? This is what you'll never understand, while you 'sympathize' with the 'cause'.
Idiot.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 17, 2011 - 12:54am PT
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Don't play the race/slave card. It's really just an excuse, not a reason for societal degeneration and apathy. Self-loathing.
Deny people an education, beat them if they are caught reading a book, and then mock them for not knowing proper grammar.
Hey bluey, let's hold a hundred yard race. Give me a 75 yard head start, then when I finish before you, I can call you weak.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:56am PT
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Wes, are you so arrogant that you think I don't know the difference? Really?
It was a wider, more profound question I posed to you. And yet you take it literally.
That's fine, maybe I should have alerted you to that.
RDIT:
Deny people an education, beat them if they are caught reading a book, and then mock them for not knowing proper grammar.
Hey bluey, let's hold a hundred yard race. Give me a 75 yard head start, then when I finish before you, I can call you weak.
How long has that happend? How long before it's fixed???
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 01:32am PT
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It happened for over 300 years you ignorant fukhead. How long before it gets fixed?
Really? C'mon!
It didn't take the Irish that long? Poles? Italians?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 17, 2011 - 11:55am PT
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It has nothing to do with arrogance, it has to do with the fact that you are a fuking moron.
This deserves repeating.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 17, 2011 - 12:00pm PT
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It didn't take the Irish that long? Poles? Italians?
They have an advantage since after all, they look more or less like us normal people.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:05pm PT
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How about the Chinese, Gary?
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 17, 2011 - 12:09pm PT
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How about the Chinese? When they weren't allowed to be citizens? When they were not allowed to inter-marry? Read some history, you'll see it wasn't always a bed of roses for them.
Nowadays though, all the white boys have Yellow Fever, so they got that going for them.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
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How many generation until the 'yoke of oppression' is gone, Wes? Maybe they'd do better if they stayed in Africa? Afterall, they wouldn't have white Americans oppressing them there, right?
Again...
http://www.philly.com/philly/video/BC1099587135001.html
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:21pm PT
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I bet you would, Wes. You're trying to paint me into a corner as a racist, but when your point is proven to be invalid, what do you do?
race-card.
You claim that Americans are still oppressing blacks. I say that what if they never came here. Would they have more opportunities there or here?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:28pm PT
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That's what you and your ilk do best, Wes. Take a snippet of a question I asked you, and make into a statement of mine. If you're going to incessantly post that, why not post it in context?
Oh that's right, because YOU are the hateful and disengenuous one.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2011 - 12:30pm PT
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If you talk like a racist.. people will perceive you a racist.
So, Nita, is the black Mayor a racist??? He sure as hell was targeting black youths in his city. And those were not kind words.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Aug 17, 2011 - 12:33pm PT
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Wow Blue, you sure are coming across like a racist, although I truely believe in your heart you are not. Try walking in a black mans shoes for a while. Growing up in a ghetto, underprivledged, surrounded by squalor, drugs, crime. Beat down, hasseled by the cops at every turn. Hard to hold your head up. I know I would not be where I am as a black man as I am not that big of a man. It would be a rough life and I could see how it would break you, and I thank God I had it easier. You should to.
Certainly the current welfare situation is not admirable, but its going to get much worse in our inner cities before to long as our governments go broke. Why didn't Bush(ha) or Obama start a CCC like Roosevelt did to get inner city kids out of the inner city learning to work, giving them some opportunity except for taking a bullet while working at a 7-11 or selling crack on a street corner?
Maybe if you are sincere and want to make a difference, volunteer to be a Big Brother to one of these kids. Way more admirable then talking sh#t about them on the internet like they have some choice in where they were born and what skin color.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 17, 2011 - 12:42pm PT
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but when your point is proven to be invalid, what do you do?
When was his point proven to be invalid?
Anyway, it's simple math. When the unemployment rate drops, the crime rate drops. There will always be a segment of chowder heads that will prefer crime, generally these are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Most people just want to make a decent living, raise a family and go about life.
Every Republican policy of the last 40 years has been about empowering short term gain of corporate profit at the long term expense of America and her people.
That's the bottom line.
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