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bluering
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Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 9, 2011 - 08:45pm PT
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This dude says it all (like Bill Cosby once did);
http://www.philly.com/philly/video/BC1099587135001.html
Mayor Nutter addresses his church on reforms to his city's problems. Advance to 9:52 to start the gist of it. Be patient, he makes very valid points.
This is one of the problems with black-America and he takes it head-on. And he is pretty brave to do so. He'd be a racist if it came from a white politician, but like Bill Cosby, he's trying to inform the black-American youths that what they're doing is a dead-end.
Awesome!
I wish him and the youths the best...Great man.
EDIT: If you're really impatient, goto 14:00.
or 19:18...
or 24:50...
Priceless from 27:15...
This Mayor is a truly great leader. May God bless him and his message.
Good man.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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nature
climber
back in Tuscon Aridzona....
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you must be referring to the inner city youth in Kabul that "we" are so actively "protecting" and "helping".
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
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you must be referring to the inner city youth in Kabul that "we" are so actively "protecting" and "helping".
Last time I checked, those kids in Khandahar and Kabul are doing better. Maybe you're trying to make some lame point here?
How do you feel abouth the Mayor's words? Agree or disagree?
Or would you rather just throw fecal matter like a monkey in a cage?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
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Funny how all the libs haven't jumped on this to support their 'inner city youth held down by the white-man'.....
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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apolitical edit
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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We could really be a pyromaniac and stoke the fire by opining that all military personnel are on "Government Workfare" - people doing mostly unwarranted jobs on the taxpayer's dime.
The raw difference being what?
Welfare kids shoot homies and workfare kids shoot hajis?
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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Funny how all the libs haven't jumped on this to support their 'inner city youth held down by the white-man'.....
Dude it's only been two hours since you posted.
I saw an article about it earlier today, and I agree with you 100% on this issue. (Although the "God Bless" part may have been a little overboard...)
Never heard of this guy before today, but he's got my respect.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2011 - 11:05pm PT
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We could really be a pyromaniac and stoke the fire by opining that all military personnel are on "Government Workfare" - people doing mostly unwarranted jobs on the taxpayer's dime.
The raw difference being what?
Welfare kids shoot homies and workfare kids shoot hajis?
Well, I'm pretty sure you're just trolling with that, just cause I know you you and all.
EDIT: Mangy, I meant the the God bless part. Where do you think this bold man got his values from? The street? He's obviously a good, God-fearing, man.
I ain't preachin', but just sayin'....
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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I'm a God-fearing man and you never bless me.
:(
Is it because I don't always say what you want to hear?
Did you know that Obama is a Christian? It's true, liberals can be Christians. I'm not even the only one at my church.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2011 - 11:27pm PT
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God bless ya, Mangy.
I don't throw the blessings around 'liberally'. I feel it detracts from the sentiment. And it does.
I only drop it when I really mean it. Too many people use these terms wrongly. Sean Hannity comes to mind.
What a putz..."You're a great American", to someone he's never talked to before???? WTF???
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Maybe...but since the debate via-a-vie "welfare" sooner or later comes down to tax payer dollars - I thought we should include all questionable expenditures of government revenue that result in minimal or questionable return on investment.
Sadly, I currently reside in a town where 25% of the citizenry are "recipients" of some form of public assistance i.e. "welfare" - be it WIC, SNAP, Section 8, free health care. In other words, they are provided access to housing, food and health care that working "citizens" are denied.
None have productive jobs or contributory lives in any grand societal sense - all cost me as a taxpayer - but they do spend their checks and vouchers in town so there is that trickle down benefit I suppose.
Ironically enough, another 25% of the local population work for the government as voluntary military personnel. All receive publicly funded salaries, with full access to health care, subsidized housing and access to exclusive shopping facilities where the cost of goods are 50% less than the civilian stores charge.
At this point in time, I am hard pressed to say that "productive work" is being performed by these workers either. Their three current government contracts (Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya)) hardly contribute anything remotely beneficial to this country in terms of economics or evolution.
I would go as far as to say that both classes of expenditures share the negatives of draining our tax resources for little societal benefit.
One just has better PR than the other.
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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And may God bless you also, my friend.
We agree about Hannity as well.
Twice in one thread!
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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Ironically enough, another 25% of the local population work for the government as voluntary military personnel. All receive publicly funded salaries, with full access to health care, subsidized housing and access to exclusive shopping facilities where the cost of goods are 50% less than the civilian stores charge.
You can easily identify these people by the bumper stickers on their cars that decry Obama as a socialist.
Mr. Ricky D. gets it. He totally gets it.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Sean Hannity comes to mind.
Lets not leave out the great Christian Glenn Beck.
Why is it that Christians are quick to say someone isn't a Christian when they do something bad, like the guy in Norway, and quicker to declare that some radical is a muslim? Remember the fort Hood guy. How quick the Christians were to label him a muslim just because he said Allah Akbar and went to a mosque a few times.
Why is that?
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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Too easy John - it's the greatest of all ironies.
Most people use religion only to justify their own sins.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2011 - 11:47pm PT
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Ricky, I'd argue that the military personnel DO provide a very valuable service to us. As do the LEO.
They are 'entitled' to their gifts of state and taxpayer. As are SOME welfare recipients.
But let's be realistic about welfare abuse and couch-huggers.
EDIT:
Most people use religion only to justify their own sins.
And this is what disparages religion and faith. It's a shame and a 'sin'.
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Mangy Peasant
Social climber
Riverside, CA
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I'd argue that the military personnel DO provide a very valuable service to us.
Nobody is arguing that they don't.
The question is: At what cost?
If the military provides a valuable service, then should we double the military so that we get twice as much of this service?
If we cut it in half, will we lose half of the service?
It's a cost benefit question. It is the same for any government function.
The fact that the size and cost of our military dwarfs all of our potential adversaries combined is a pretty good indicator that the cost may exceed the benefit.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Let's take a group of people, sh#t all over them, make sure there is no hope for a better future, then get all pissy when they react.
bluering, how do you live with yourself?
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