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Paco
Trad climber
Montana
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Nov 29, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
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anywhere in south eastern australia...if you can get there.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Nov 29, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
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But Biscuit World needs you.........
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Nov 29, 2010 - 11:59pm PT
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Fayetteville, WV: Where livers and teeth go to die.
Too funny - but there is amazing climbing in the area - some of the best in the states, IMO!
Practice this until you have it down (bonus points for the proper drawl):
"Hold my beer and watch this!"
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sportcamper
Trad climber
NEW HAMPSHIRE
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:23am PT
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my two cents is north conway, nh. but you also need to love ice climbing and skiing, as winter can be long here. but you can climb AND fill yur tank by living here. just a great place all around.
-james.
edit: i kinda dig werner and norwegians suggestions too...
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MarkGrubb
climber
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:31am PT
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Move to the New River WV and these folks will be just down the road!
http://www.wildandwonderfulwhites.com/trailer/
Watch the trailer and learn the mating call of Boone County, WV.
Disturbing, funny, and too real.
WV has some amazingly good people and decent to world-class rock, forest, whitewater, and hunting/fishing, especially in southern / southeastern part of the state. Bluefield would be a great place to base out of, with decent access to the NR Gorge, Seneca and lots and lots of very nice, very empty 1-2 pitch local rock. Western NC is not far away with all the bounty of Linville Gorge, Looking Glass, etc, etc.
In fact, western NC would be my choice for home if I was force to live east of I-25.
All that being said, I would rather dig ditches in my part of Calif. than be independently wealthy in WV. Rust, ticks, fleas, chiggers, dull stares of the locals, mediocre food, smoking in restaurants, and a pace of life slower than tar in winter.
Written by a borne and bred West Virginian (who greatly prefers Tehachapi and environs and married a hot chick from Boron!)
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:35am PT
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Who knew there was a hot chick in Boron?
Right on, man.
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2 l l
Sport climber
Rancho Verga, CA
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:56am PT
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Where is a good cheap place to live with lots of climbing? In the talus below Rhombus Wall.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland
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Nov 30, 2010 - 01:45am PT
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Ahhhh, the question I ask myself every Monday after I've spent 8 hours driving somewhere to do something....
East of Denver is basically out of the question, aside from slight possibilities like North Conway. I like to ski and I'm not going back to small hills and ice. Anything remotely midwest is out of the question, my escape from heat and humidity is not temporary.
As a Geographer, I pour over maps, guidebooks, threads, you name it in search of the perfect mix of rock, ice, snow, 4 seasons, not too many yuppies (they drive up the damn cost of living) but good coffee shops.
There are a lot of great towns in rural Colorado, rural Utah and as others have mentioned, I think Reno has got a lot going for it.
Edited to add: Salt Lake City, cheap and unreal access and a city, albeit a touch different than you might be used to.. but I hear that little mountain range can be a bit crowded?? I would give it a shot.
I would also give the van a shot too. If I hadn't landed in a relationship, this was becoming a serious plan... doh!!
Spokane/Cour d'Alene looks wicked good on the map and appears to be cheap with maybe a decent job market too.
Goods out the back door is $$$. After CA my tolerance for driving is all effed up but I used to think 1 hour was a reasonable amount of time to drive to do something for a day. On that note, there are lots of jobs to be had in Alaska and Palmer, AK has probably as good of access to ice as any in the country, and very good alpine right out your door. Not to mention the granite of the Talkeetnas. Lots of other stuff too. Sigh.
Las Vegas is wicked cheap. I saw some ads for condos less than 5 years old about 3 miles away from Red Rocks for ~90k. I think they will get cheaper though. I don't think I could live there year round though.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Nov 30, 2010 - 02:13am PT
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city of Econoline,
Ford County, Anywhere
91111
talk about rent control,
and you always get your cleaning deposit back, you know how that is,
just park underneath a bridge in the rain,
otherwise it is like trying to sleep while somebody pours a 55 gallon drum full of small ball bearings on top of your steel roof,
hail? let us not go there,
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Iron Mtn.
Trad climber
Corona, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2010 - 05:09am PT
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Is that Sam's Throne in that Arkansas picture? Climbed there about 11 years ago and it was indeed amazing.
As for some of you other guys, what a bunch of cynical bastards you are. A guy asks a legitimate question and you can do is pop off with sarcasm? SHEESH!!!!
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wildone
climber
Troy, MT
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Nov 30, 2010 - 06:05am PT
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No-one has mentioned SLC, UT. I don't know how "expensive" it is to live there, but I know for outdoor stuff it's the sh#t. My friends who live there seem very happy.
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tonym
climber
Oklahoma
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Nov 30, 2010 - 09:15am PT
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At Iron Mtn... Yea, it's the Sams Throne area. So much excellent sandstone and awesome scenery!
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Nov 30, 2010 - 10:06am PT
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New River Gorge, WV. you can buy a house in town for 40-80k and have 3000 routes to choose from..
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utahman912
Social climber
SLC, UT
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Nov 30, 2010 - 10:32am PT
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Salt Lake City is horrible.
First of all, Big Cottonwood Canyon is not that big at all... only like 500 routes up there. And it takes forever to get there from downtown.. at least 20 minutes during the afternoon rush hour.
Second, sure there are 800 routes up Little Cottonwood, but it takes an extra 6-7 minutes to drive down there from Big Cottonwood... and the Mormons own half of it... so the guys in white shirts and ties are always asking "What do you know about the Book of Mormon?" the whole time you are belaying at ground level.
Housing prices are exorbitant. My son pays $450 for a two bedroom downtown.
And who would want to climb something as ugly as this:
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Stewart Johnson
climber
yo mama
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Nov 30, 2010 - 11:13am PT
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sun valley, reno. or lone pine.
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Disaster Master
Social climber
Born in So-Cal, left my soul in far Nor-Cal.
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:03pm PT
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If it existed, we would all be there.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:15pm PT
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Some spots in Montana might fit the bill...though it depends on what you do for work I'd think...
liking winter helps too...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:17pm PT
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Try Tucson first...
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BruceAnderson
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Nov 30, 2010 - 12:23pm PT
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Europe. I pay a little over 600$ a month for a 3 bdrm house here in the south of France. LOTS of climbing.
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ldsclimber
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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Nov 30, 2010 - 01:41pm PT
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Allow me to opine. Uh humm.. Utahman912 you are right on for dissing SLC. It SUCKS to be a climber there! It took me at least 15 min from work to be roped up. Depending on where you work it could take 30 min w/traffic. It's just unacceptable. The life time of alpine or quarried granite, quartzite, or limestone within an hour is pathetic at best.
Who wants to drive 2hrs to the sun baked sandstone Walls in the San Rafael Swell in the middle of winter, the jugs of Maple Canyon in the fall, the slabbed out China Wall of Logan Canyon, and lets not forget the crappy cracks like Bloody Fingers or Crack of Doom in City of Rocks(Id)Sounds nasty!
Its a long 3hrs to wrestle pebbles at Joe's Valley or Triassic.
It would take somewhere around 4hrs, to drive to the OK sandstone desert towers like Castleton or Moses, or to the unbolted splitters of Indian Creek. The Tetons(Wy)aren't all that pretty or that tall, only 13,775' and WY limestone is well, too steep and pockety for most taste.
5 hrs South from SLC is little park called Zion. Who would want go hang out with or off the Patriarchs or watch the moon cross the sky on Moonlight Buttress. St George limestone has so many areas that it possible you might not see any one. At a sport crag? Come on, that's just lame!
6hrs of suffering in ol'reliable headed southeast, will land you at the rim of the 2000' deep choss pile called the Black Canyon(Co), home to the not so Scenic Cruise. You'll probably want to throw up at first glance down the route. Yuck!! Head south instead to the park entrance of Red Rocks (NV) with all the sport routes and scantily clad Euro Dudes you can handle climbing routes like the Gift. Or head over to Black Velvet, Pine Creek, or Juniper Canyon with routes around 2000+' like Epinephrine, Levitation 29, and Cloud Tower.
As if the climbing wasn't bad enough the powder in the Wasatch is too deep and fluffy, nothing like the Northeast POW POW of Vermont or the Dacks!! So in short if you heart climbing every day move to Heuco.
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