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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 31, 2010 - 03:20pm PT
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Huell Howser knows where the heart of California is, at least the geographical center. I saw the show.
Rockjox~ whatevz brah! KW still climbs, a lot. Discovers, a lot. Has fun, a lot.
You THINK you know.
You don know sh#t.
Shut it.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
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Rok wrote: My POINT? THAT everyone should practice what they preach. Leave no trace. Leave the natural world natural.
Not everyone is into preaching like you.
You just want to rant. Go at it.
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Alois
Trad climber
Idyllwild, California
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May 31, 2010 - 03:27pm PT
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Jim, I agree. On the other hand, there are places in the Sierra you don't see many people and what an incredible climbing. Bubbs Creek Wall, Castle Rock Spire, the Fin, Pine Creek Pass, Yosemite back country, Lone Pine Peak, Langley, the whole of Domelands, Needles, man, that is a lifetime of absolutely the best climbing. California has it all. People will re discover it again, like we did years ago.
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rincon
Trad climber
SoCal
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May 31, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
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Funny...another California sucks thread...lol.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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May 31, 2010 - 03:49pm PT
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Jesus H. Christ on a Stick Rokjox - will you give it a freeking break for at least ONE F*#KIN DAY!
Yes...we get it.
You hate California.
Why don't you go pick on North Dakota for a week or so - I've been there and they have things that suck too.
Just please, leave US the f*#k alone you whackjob!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 04:15pm PT
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Rox wrote: My biggest complaint with the state is how hard it is to get around (east west through the Rockies) once you get off I-70. So many of the roads are two land winders that ONE Winnebago can cause a traffic stack-up for ten miles, and they got a LOT more than one Winnebago.
Don't worry we'll built bigger roads just for you.
WTF!!
And you are worried about bolts in a wilderness area...LOL
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Bldrjac
Ice climber
Boulder
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May 31, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
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Watch those uphill approaches Jim. Before you know it your thighs will get huge and hold you back!!
JACK
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krahmes
Social climber
LP
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May 31, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
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Isn’t this true for every place in the western USA; even Idaho? That is if you can remember how the western USA was thirty years ago. Memory is a bit of a curse.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 05:08pm PT
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Hey folks it is all good . . . after 20+ years in SW CO I would have to say that we have more choss here than CA, it just has not been developed as much. The thought of the desecration of popular El Cap routes by human bodily waste is a depressing one however . . . thankfully we don't have to get pissed and sh#t on here. As for these clowns that want to bolt the sh#t out of anything and everything here and in CA, put your ego aside and top rope or free solo it for chrissakes. What happened to the ethic of leaving it for someone who can do it in better style?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 31, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
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I drove over Independence less than two years ago and there was still a single lane for both directions at that one spot.
The drivers coming up from Aspen were a real hazard though.
Thats the thing, Colorado is cool, Cal is cool.
It's the crowds that screw it up.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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May 31, 2010 - 05:39pm PT
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you had to go in a casino to know reno sucks. the place looks like a little San bernardino with even less class & san bernardino has none.I love nevada its just the people & the way they live - the whole place looks like meth town. I Know thats not fair, but true. The new shops i see in idaho & for that matter most places i go look like new 1965 san berdo - if you hate cal. so much why are you letting your home state be designed & built like this. Cal. is the economic engine of the USA thats what happened here. 80% of all the products exported out of the west are shipped out of L.A.& LONG BEACH HARBORS. More than 35% of all the frieght shipped into the USA comes though those two ports. Without those large roads(interstate 5 & 710 & 15 carry the most frieght of any roads in the would) coming out of those ports the rest of you could not & would not live in those incredible places. I am glad you have a great place to live. get over yourself.
she is going to stretch your rope
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 31, 2010 - 05:54pm PT
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Come visit Ouray Locker. You have a place to stay, I'll give you a tour.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 07:24pm PT
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Jim wrote: Come visit Ouray Locker. You have a place to stay, I'll give you a tour.
Go Locker you'll feel like you are in LA with all the rich, white folks in the area.
I first went to Telluride in 1974 and they couldn't give away the old mining houses along Main St, now maybe a half million will get you 500 square feet.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 31, 2010 - 08:14pm PT
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Yes, shame on you KW.
Sheesh.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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May 31, 2010 - 08:16pm PT
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Calling Pate.........
Hello....
Come in Pate......
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 31, 2010 - 08:20pm PT
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 31, 2010 - 08:21pm PT
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California would be an awesome place to live if it weren't so full of Californians.
edit: nothin' against Californians, there's just so dang many of you.
I'm a second generation Californio.
We just wish all you aliens would just leave!
We could bulldoze the tract houses, replant the orange groves, and vineyards.
It would be a nice place again.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 08:26pm PT
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TGT wrote: I'm a second generation Californio.
We just wish all you aliens would just leave!
We could bulldoze the tract houses, replant the orange groves, and vineyards.
It would be a nice place again.
Wow second generation...the ones who really f*#ked it up.
You might want to ask the native Americans and the old Hispanics families who been there for centuries what they think?
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 31, 2010 - 08:30pm PT
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Ignorance is bliss.
Wait, he doesn't live in Bliss, he lives in Boise.
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