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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 25, 2010 - 08:46pm PT
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A key to personal happiness is to let other cars in when you're driving.
I know! I usually roll that way! I f*#king hate it when people won't let you in with a signal on!!!! Also bad are the fuks who just cut in w/o signaling, essentially cutting you off. "I woulda let you in, dickhead, just signal!!!!"
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ME Climb
Social climber
Behind the Orange Curtain
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May 25, 2010 - 08:59pm PT
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Fattrad,
You were a cop so you are forgiven
Eric
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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May 25, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
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Jeff, I hereby slap you with an internet soft glove - challenging you to a duel. Good .vs Evil.
See you at facelift for the showdown.
;)
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ME Climb
Social climber
Behind the Orange Curtain
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May 25, 2010 - 09:14pm PT
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I have struggled with the question for years. I have done things that I am trully ashamed of, while I have done others I have been proud of. I am a non violent man who has had to use violence and will continue to do so when it is needed. I try to help people when I can. I try to do the right thing, whatever that is. I have changed peoples lives for the good and the bad. There are people who think I am the reason they are alive, others who want to kill me. I feel good when I make a wrong right.
Many years ago I thought I would be succesful if I made a positive change in someones life and they passed it on. This served me for many years until I met Earl Woods before he died. he told me I should strive to make a difference in one persons life everyday. (Yes I know he is a hypocrite, but his point was understood)
What it boils down to for me is my wife, my kids, my friends, and my peers believe I am a good person. I hope they are right.
Eric
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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May 25, 2010 - 09:31pm PT
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hey did you check Linder on the smith optics ?
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2010 - 10:13pm PT
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Wow. Got outside today and enjoyed the great weather. Makes a difference. Need to go back and read this more thoroughly.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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May 25, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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hey there say, mr E.... you know, i just had a chance to post and run, kind of.... didnt get to respond to much more...
but say, i did, or i think i did, understand your first post...
kind of like this, right?:
if you have to ask, then maybe not...
it could very well, be this way, too, depending on different perspectives as to the situations and the one that is seeking to learn...
but read this first, then i will have YOUR "maybe not" at the end:
well, we are all just grown-up kids, so take this for example, even as for kids, it is a good check, as to if we are being BECAUSE sometimes it is only natural to being into our self-agenda too much... or, as to kids, being into only seeing their world, near at hand, through through their own eyes, and being either innocent, oblivious, or indifferent to any other world (all depends on the kid, or grown up kid, later in life, which is the "then adult")...
thus, it IS, too, a good check to ask ourselves, whether we feel we have been good or not...
we then: "check out" how the bigger picture is, and if there is something we have failed to see or do, that would really bring out what a deeper goodness is.... once again, using kids as an example...
for example... with kids... they may be being good towards many things things in the home, but all on their own level... later, if they seek MORE, as to this question, they may see that good ol' dad is awful worn-out when he comes home... and instead of just going about a kids business and running around playing, he just may FIND that he could stop in and give dad a hug, ask if he wants some iced tea, or whatever, or bring him a pillow, for his feet... (i think you get my drift)... or when mom comes home with "tons" :O of groceries, he just may FIND that he could help put them away....
so, the good kid (or even a grown up adults, remember, by applying this to us adults), that was intent on being good, can as this question, and he learned deeper, what a richer good, could be...
and then YES, in this way, the kid that had NOT been intent on being good, and had started to question himself as to his actions, well, by this guestion, he will thus one day have to take a stand on the issues he is feeling, and what he should do about it, to make himself face what being good means, and how to reach in to being so...
the other type kid (or even a grown up adults, remember, by applying this to us adults) ... well, he may know very well that he is lacking in areas, and is only good for himself, his own agenda, and thus the majority of what he does, very well COULD and in many times HAS affected others in ways that are far from good.... but---he will only learn, or see this, if he has the "guts, sudden instinct, or serious prompt from a surfacing issues" to then ask himself this question, "have i been a good person?"
so, mr E ... the question could have followed into your answer, too... it just all depends on which case-study as to a person's heart, we area dealing with and such....
hope this helps you, as to knwoing that what you chipped in, was well worth-it, too...
:)
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krutley
climber
here, now
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May 26, 2010 - 12:57am PT
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True words aren't charming,
charming words aren't true.
Good people aren't contentious,
contentious people aren't good.
People who know aren't learned,
learned people don't know.
Wise souls don't hoard;
the more they do for others the more they have,
the more they give the richer they are.
The Way of heaven profits without destroying.
Doing without outdoing
is the Way of the wise.
someone's interpretation of a good book, seemed to fit the occasion.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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May 26, 2010 - 01:19am PT
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nice t*r....there is some good stuff in Peter's two letters. I Peter 2:3 made a huge, positive impact in my marriage of 39 years. Read it in the Living Bible version. When Dan died I/we had no regrets. Our relationship was filled with love and solid. Peace tonight, lynnie
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2010 - 03:00am PT
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"we then: "check out" how the bigger picture is, and if there is something we have failed to see or do, that would really bring out what a deeper goodness is"
I guess to some degree that is my angst. It is the things I failed to see and things I did not do that haunt me. Not to say I have not been an ass at times. People I've lost over the years because I was focused on something that in the end turned out to be less important. It just doesn't seem like I tried hard enough. I've casually floated through this life, and missed the deeper meaning.
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nita
Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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May 26, 2010 - 03:10am PT
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Johntp, weren't you looking at the Philippines as a work option?
ps edit, Johntp, were you at the facelift?
edit, t*r, ignore the leg humpers, they are not worth the time & effort....sweet dreams little sister..;-)
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2010 - 03:23am PT
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nita- whoa! yes, I was looking at work in Manila, but it fell through.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2010 - 03:29am PT
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t*r- not sure what is going on. you are okay in my book, if that is worth anything.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 26, 2010 - 03:49am PT
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Back to the OP; I am an ultra liberal from a protestant background in the midwest, I worry about this shyt all the time!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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May 26, 2010 - 11:36am PT
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hey there say... krutley... very interesting and good words...
also, t*r and lynne... good to read some scriptures... :)
say, johntp, happy to see you getting a lot out of all this...
happy day to you...
:)
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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May 26, 2010 - 11:38am PT
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I already know I'm a good person. Yet like you, when staring into the void, I wonder about all kinds of sh#t. Like, will my life be any more than piss in the wind 100 year after I'm dead? Probably not. Does that even matter? Not to a dead guy I suppose.
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Chief
climber
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May 26, 2010 - 03:48pm PT
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Terms like good and bad are subjective descriptors meant to imply a morality issue where one often doesn't exist. What's good to someone might be pure evil to someone else.
Reminds me of that great line from So I Married an Axe Murderer.
Q. "How many people have you brutally murdered"?
A. "Brutal is a pretty subjective term."
We would do ourselves a big favor by removing value based descriptors like good and evil from our daily language and replace them with terms like positive/negative and desirable/undesirable when evaluating the outcome of our choices and decisions.
The devil did not make me do it.
I'm merely a bad man with the best of intentions.
pb
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