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nature
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Tucson, AZ
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May 19, 2010 - 08:09pm PT
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Fatty can't be serious about that comment. He's just trolling. Right? RIGHT Fatty?!69
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wildone
climber
GHOST TOWN
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May 19, 2010 - 08:11pm PT
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Radical, I have a special place in my heart for you brother-your rant made me smile. And Pate. Thanks for telling it like it is. You too Paul.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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May 19, 2010 - 08:18pm PT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Task_Force
The Washington Post reported on November 15, 2005 that it had obtained documents detailing how executives from major oil corporations, including Exxon-Mobil Corp., Conoco, Royal Dutch Shell Oil Corp., and the American subsidiary of British Petroleum met with Energy Task Force participants while they were developing national energy policy. Vice President Cheney was reported to have met personally with the Chief Executive Officer of BP (formerly British Petroleum) during the time of the Energy Task Force's activities. In the week prior to this article revealing oil executive involvement, the Chief Executives of Exxon-Mobil and ConocoPhillips told members of the US Senate that they had not participated as part of the Energy Task Force, while the CEO of British Petroleum stated that he did not know. Regardless of whether the executives were under oath, if these statements were knowingly and materially false and deceptive then they were illegal per the The Fraud and False Statements statute (18 U.S.C. 1001) [10]. In response to questions regarding the article, Cheney spokesperson Lea Ann McBride was quoted as saying that the courts have upheld "the constitutional right of the president and vice president to obtain information in confidentiality." [11]
Cheney, Cheney, Cheney,
Fatty, Fatty, Fatty,
Remember him shredding a couple million of pages before he left office.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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May 19, 2010 - 08:30pm PT
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He pulled a wool blanket over your head, slipped on the blinders, and next thing you know....
BAM!!!!
He's a good guy.
Another troll, right?
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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May 19, 2010 - 09:07pm PT
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Well... nobody ever accused Cheney of being a bad politician. And he got what he wanted - your vote.
What's the old saying?
fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me, you can’t get fooled again
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Binks
climber
Uranus
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May 19, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
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Drill baby drill. That's "how it is".
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 19, 2010 - 11:37pm PT
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Cheney has struck me as having good integrity during my two visits.
Got some Karl swag for your next energy talk...
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nb3000
Social climber
Bay Area
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May 20, 2010 - 11:05am PT
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Thanks for posting this rockermike. Great video.
tolman_paul hits closest to the bullseye here. Most accidents happen on the way out, which is what happened here in the Gulf.
If you people aren't following this site already, well you f*#king should be:
The Oil Drum: Discussions about energy and our future
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lucaskrajnik
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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May 21, 2010 - 11:18am PT
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leak... not spill
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 21, 2010 - 11:41am PT
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I have been wondering why they can't perform a giant angioplasty on the broken pipe?
Send down a pipe with a high pressure inflatable balloon. Stop the flow then junk shot the pipe.
Is it possible that they don't want to cap this nightmare until they can establish a by-pass well head? They are making a big PR deal about capturing and siphoning off a few thousand barrels but I can't believe this gusher hasn't been stopped yet. More than their PR concern for the environment, BP really does not want to lose this well to "premature" inject-ulation. What's a few fishes, birds and manatee compared to all that black gold, texas tea, oil that is. Hey, look on the bright side, Halliburton is involved. So that 'oughta go Well.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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May 21, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
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Yeah, Obama has only been president for a couple years, so everything bad that happens is still Bush's fault.
But the few good things that are happening are because of what Obama's been able to do so far.
Hope you all got that, any questions?
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Jingy
Social climber
Nowhere
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May 21, 2010 - 03:48pm PT
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just wanted to stop by and state the facts...
A corporation, in search for oil (for profit) has caused the dumping of (what might just be millions) of gallons of oil into the ocean...
None have a good idea on what can be done to correct the issue, meaning, they had no plan-b to stop the flow and clean up the mess...
does anyone else see the problem with al of this?
Is america that dumb?
All for what?
Profit margin?
Good, sound business stratagy...
seems to be working out ffor the rest of us..
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hb81
climber
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May 23, 2010 - 03:25pm PT
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>>WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin says she remains a "big supporter of offshore drilling" despite the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
But Palin also tells "Fox News Sunday" that oil companies need to be held accountable. The former Alaska governor suggests that drilling on land in places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is safer than trying to extract oil from beneath the ocean floor.<<
Beyond belief.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2010 - 04:24pm PT
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Maybe they could craft a big Sarah Palin look a like butt plug for the broken pipe. Palin, shove it!
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Argon
climber
North Bay, CA
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May 23, 2010 - 05:05pm PT
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Bash Palin all you want - she deserves it and she can now afford it. But Dick Cheney's fingerprints are all over this spill. Worst VP in history. Cheney deserves to have his reputation completely trashed.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
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OK, so we shove the Palin Plug in the Dick and ram that in the tube.
Sounds like a republican plan.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
from the Leastside
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Cracks me up that Obama is suddenly FURIOUS ! Is he familiar with that industry at all ? Why is he assigning blame to BP ? They seem to be giving due diligence to solving it , and that after having some of thier crew killed in the process . Everything comes at a price . We want oil - we got it (plus the problems) .
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Rankin
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North Carolina
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We have brought this disaster on ourselves.
If you drive a car or buy anything that requires gasoline to move, you are complicit in the spill. Sad but true. The poetic justice of this disaster is that at least the oil is hitting American shores instead of some third world nation that doesn't consume anything. We are gluttons of oil consumption.
BP was reckless. The fact that there was no real regulation by the government further proves that the private industry or the free market cannot be trusted to protect our civilization. Hopefully Americans learn these lessons and act accordingly.
The past 30 years of American politics (especially the Bush years) have shown that you don't make government better by destroying it. Government has a role in our lives. People don't like this fact, but when things go wrong, they freak out like children. You can't have it both ways.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
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"If you drive a car or buy anything that requires gasoline to move, you are complicit in the spill."
Not quite. Many people are actively involved in protecting & limiting where oil can be extracted, and deep water offshore drilling is very high on that list, among other sensitive sites that the oil co's want to rape. The companies lobby ceaselessly to remove these restrictions and it boils down to those in congress who succumb to their own greed and agenda when the co's are successful. You could extend that blame to the people who support & reelect those people.
Another underlying problem is that people want cheap oil. There are huge reserves that are not in sensitive areas, but require a ton of complicated technology to retrieve it and is therefore hugely expensive.
Your argument is like saying if you invest or save, then you are responsible for the financial meltdown because you helped contribute to the huge pool of money the banks had to gamble with.
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