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mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Feb 4, 2010 - 02:53am PT
Lynne,

It seems the boulders-in-the-know go for Organic pads, but I can't imagine them better than a Flashed like TKings has--the engineering and technology is next generation. Getting a deal makes the pad all the more superior, but they're not plentiful.

See the review on the Metolius Collosus ( http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Bouldering-Crash-Pad-Reviews/Metolius-Colossus )--less than 250$ and large enough to fill nearly all one-pad needs (crashing AND sleeping on). My guess is that you're not high-balling the pebbles, so buy accordingly.


Chain saws...a merciless tool to self-learn




I'll ask someone else to run it who has more experience :-)
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 4, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
Lynne,
Here's your chainsaw.

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
Feb 4, 2010 - 01:27pm PT
I was just joking with my husqy picture. Lynne, chainsaws giterdun but are best left to those with some training. When things go sideways they go way sideways. Also, cutting downed trees offers its own set of dangers-the force generated by releasing limbs under tension can be surprising. Get a buddy or someone else to deal with it and go bouldering instead!
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Feb 4, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
Good advice on the Craigslist recommendation but remember
that you are in Californicate. If you hire an un-licensed
un-insured noob and he hurts himself on your property guess
who he's gonna come after? It happens, a lot.

I wish I had my photos scanned of the canoe trips Husqvarna
sponsered me on.
Barry Bates

Boulder climber
Smith River CA
Feb 4, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
EARTH FIRST WE'LL LOG THE OTHER PLANETS LATTER. I cut about 5 cords a year off our property here in northern Ca. We heat 100% with wood. I have 2 saws both Stihls one large one small. the small one would do all you would ever need to do and more, its a stilh ms 310 14 inch bar. Great little saw! cost about $250. Chicken Skinner was right about the Sta-Bil fuel stabilizer, old fuel will kill a saw quicker than anything.
I have a mad rock pad thick and ridged works great not to pricey, Although some of the thinner pads do seem to conform to uneven terrain a little better, so there does seem to be trade offs between thin and thick.
You may be on the fore front of a new sport CHAIN SAW BOULDERING.

Good luck Barry


































klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 4, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
wes--

i cant believe yr still remixing that metolius frank sinatra choss.
andy@climbingmoab

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 4, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
I love my Husqvarna 346 XP, but I echo what pretty much everyone else is saying. Don't even think about buying a chainsaw - ask a friend, use a reciprocating saw, or use a bow saw. Any friend of yours who has a chainsaw and doesn't get to use it much will be delighted to have an excuse to get it out.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 4, 2010 - 04:58pm PT
Don't know If you have a woodstove but it is darn nice to be able to manage the woods arround your cabin and use that wood to heat with. A 36cc Husky or Sthill would be pleanty of saw but still easy to handle. My land lady has a 36 husky and cuts down tress and all kinds of good stuff with it. Don't listen to those who don't think chicks can be loggers, :)
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
شقوق واس
Feb 4, 2010 - 05:04pm PT
Lynne....hire someone to cut up the wood, & then go bouldering.
I think you're great, but you're just not a logger type. Just sayin'.....And I don't want you to get hurt.
The monkeys need your gitupngopower.
Cheers!
Phil_B

Social climber
Hercules, CA
Feb 4, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
The Lancer is good if you have to kill some bad guys:
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 4, 2010 - 05:42pm PT
Here Ya go Lynne
http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=YnJmS0tlcWuRpaEZ0bXc&worlds-biggest-fastest-chain-saw-with-v8-engine-300-horsepower=
gonzo chemist

climber
a crucible
Feb 4, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
most guys and gals I know that primarily boulder love their Organic pads. They hold up well to serious abuse. And, to boot, its made by a small business here in the USA. I'm very partial to supporting small "mom and pop" style businesses, so Organic is who I recommend.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 4, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
To me, the size of the pad is at least as important as the brand.
There's a perception that the big ones are only necessarily for experts on highball problems, but I like big ones for everything. No pad works if you miss it (and hitting an edge can be much worse than hitting the ground).

'course, the climbing gym with several feet of cushy foam everywhere is hard to beat!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 4, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
I don't like things that say organic that clearly ain't... unless there is now a way to grow organic foam.


As I understand it, latex memory foam can be made w/o any chemical treatment. That doesn't mean the rubber trees were certified organic, and I don't know if Josh uses latex, but I'm not sweating it. I do know that I had him put pack straps on one of the briefcases since I needed something light and agile for backcountry. Turns out, it absorbs better than does my Metolius. So i ponied up for a big Organic as well.

Now my Metolius lives in the basement.



Sinatra sux.

Tangerine,
She is all they claim . . .


kinnikinik

Trad climber
B.C.
Feb 4, 2010 - 09:25pm PT
Too funny, Anders!
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Feb 4, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
"Don't listen to those who don't think chicks can be loggers"

Who said they don't think chick can be loggers? I have a friend who heats her home with a wood stove and hasn't paid for wood in years.

One day I helped her with a - very - small job of gathering some trees that the power company had cut down to clear the lines. She owns 3 chain saws, she said(or is it 4). She used the little bitty one for this job, since it is quieter, and the branches were smaller (they were also 6-8 inches).

I've never used a chain saw before, and only seen a few people. So I knew nothing, and she explained a little bit. I watched her cut up the wood, and helped load the pieces into the van. There is NO WAY I would ever - EVER - recommend Lynn go to Home Depot and buy a chain saw and cut the branches in her yard. MAYBE if she had a wood stove and was intending to learn to use the thing for developing her own cache of wood, then I would suggest she have someone mentor her and then decide if she really wants to do that work.

"Wood is heavy" is a vast understatement. There was NO WAY I could move the logs my friend cut by myself. It was all I could do not to let down my end of the things while she was maneuvering them into the truck. There is NO WAY I would go out and buy/use a chain saw on my own.

But for a storm clean up? For a first time user? Forget about the danger(which IS the paramount issue). The friggin expense if the saw and the safety crap? For a storm clean up?

I know a lot of you guys are just enjoying talking tools of the good variation, but really.....







HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Feb 5, 2010 - 01:17pm PT
happiegrrrl

I intended to give enough info to Lynne so she could make an informed decision. I think all the other chain saw users did too.
I think your advice is sound.

Except for the logs you couldn't lift on your own. Use the chainsaw to make them smaller. ;)
It saves your back.

Good luck Lynne
let us know what you do.
And if your buddies come by to help, buy them plenty of beer AFTER the job's done. While they're working, keep them on water. plenty of it. ;)
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 5, 2010 - 01:35pm PT
nice one TGT. The thing is... the boys in the video are weak. IT takes two of them to handle that thing. lynne could handle it all by her lonesome.








geeeez... I can't believe the people give folks a hard time about the saws being recommended. Can't ya'll's tell a fricking joke when you hear one? (though I wasn't kidding about the bouldering pads ;-)
BooDawg

Social climber
Paradise Island
Feb 5, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
www.consumersearch.com recommends a Poulan Pro Model # PP3516AVX which I got recently, and it's quite fine for non-P. Bunyan types.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 5, 2010 - 01:52pm PT
but we all know that Lynne is very much the Paulette Bunyan type.
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