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WoodyS
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Riverside
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Many of my favorites have already been metioned so I'll add a few that were not: All about Eve, The Wild Bunch, Gone With the Wind, The third Man, the Alien series, Zulu and Zulu Dawn, High Noon, Romeo and Juliet(F. Zeffirelli), Polanski's Macbeth, Mel Gibson's Hamlet. Blade Runner again because I believe it to be the best ScFi ever made. I know after a bit I'll think of more, but I just got back from JT and need calories.
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Mom
Social climber
So Cal
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No particular order - but always something to consider:
The Mountain - Spencer Tracy, Robert Wagner - 1956 - the original climbing movie.... how many of you have seen it???
Jeremiah Johnson
Legends of the Fall
The Old Man and the Sea
Dr. Zhivago
The Searchers
A River Run Through It
The Sting
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - the founders of Camp 4
Lonesome Dove
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2005 - 10:15pm PT
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Obviously not the same Woody, I like your choices.
I liked Zulu so much that I studied both battles in detail. One of the more interesting versions was in the book I mentioned to Shack. The definitive work is probably David Clammer's tome The Zulu War.
Zulu featured another new actor playing Lt. Gonville Bromhead, a young Michael Caine! As much as I like Lancaster (and as Durnford a historical figure I admire too) the original beats the prequel.
My buddy Bob Cleaves was in South Africa when Zulu was made. The film company hired hundreds of Zulu extras but full costume meant no shoes and after wearing them for so long the natives feet were no longer calloused. If you watch the film carefully you can catch a few tenderfoot displays.
Too funny.
The Hollywood ending was bogus too. The real battle petered out at about 2:00AM.
I like the way Hook stops for some medicinal brandy while the infirmary was burning. One can wonder. He WAS a screwup. The burning building did provide light to fight by though.
Most common injury at Rorke's Drift; a burn to the left hand from having to continue to hold and fire a hot rifle or die!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2005 - 10:27pm PT
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Mom, Zhivago was another runner up but LOA is the better Lean.
Interesting that our new Chief Justice was willing to claim Dr. Zhivago as a favorite. Not surprising that our Chief Executive concurred saying that he "specially liked it when he talked to the animals".
But I only bought Legends of the Fall because I misread the title. I thought it was Legends of the Small.
As for The Mountain, that's still how I aid climb. Have you seen Wagner & St. John doing the medicare supplement ads. God shoot me now.
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mtwoodsonguide
Big Wall climber
San Diego
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heteric is a compliment
Kubrick makes good movies but I'm not a big fan.
Your riled because I wouldn't pick what you did?
FMG is heavy and well made, but it's not a accurate portrail of Vietnam, definitely not the Corps or recruit training. I can't get past that. Better Vietnam movies are Platoon and even Hamburger Hill.
other good war movies not mentioned, The 4 Bees and A Thin Red Line.
A Few Good Men is great movie, the fathers shadow is only one facet. But once again I can't take it serious when there saying some made up noise every other minute.
Starship Troopers is on my list. I'm suprised it's on anyone elses. It hard to get past the cheesieness.
Himalaya, another good one
How about Deliverance
books that should be movies, as long as they do a good job.
Rifleman Dodd, don't remember the author but it's about a British soldier trapped behind enemy lines at Waterloo. The Gunslinger by Steven King.
nice picks mom, does Jeramiah Johnson have Robert Redford in it? A River Runs Through it, how did we forget that.
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WBraun
climber
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There's been some real good films made like the ones listed by people above, and then there are so many bad ones, more than the good ones.
I always have to wait till they come out on TV so I can turn on the sub titles. I wish they had subtitles in the movie theater. I was thinking I could design a hand held wireless display that they can give to people that need this feature. That way it wouldn't be on the main screen.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2005 - 11:14pm PT
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Woodson, not riled so you wouldn't pick what I did, but you tore into my list without providing explanations for yours.
But I suppose I invited it.
Debate is healthy.
I'm a Redford fan but last year I read the true story of John Johnston the Crow Killer and thought a more accurate film would have been far better. I wonder if people know the role he played in the relief of Fort Phil Kearney after the Fetterman Massacre? The twenty designated Crow hunters? How he knew they were close? How he disabled most? How he made peace with the Crow?
Himalaya IS a good one. You are partially redeemed.
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Mom
Social climber
So Cal
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Piton Ron - Legends of the Fall just keeps us all humble... no matter what century we live in the errors are the same... some are forgiven and some are not.
Keep trying to find The Mountain on VHS or DVD - the climbing scenes are just on the edge - no fancy stuff nor nothing technical, just brute strength and carefully honed skilland with a hemp rope... just shudder to think of using just hemp... now to smoke... different deal.. whoops..
No, haven't seen the sr adds... but he is definately a senior and still handsome... by my ole standards.
MtWoodsonguide - yes, a young Robert Redford plays Jeremiah Johnson and Will Geer plays the old mountain man... great filming for the 70's... by the way Redford did the uncredited narration in A River Run Through It - another of my favorites...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2005 - 11:53pm PT
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Redford did a little more than just the narration....
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Festus
Mountain climber
Antelope Valley
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:23am PT
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Not mentioned yet (I don't think):
Henry V (Branagh's version)
The Thin Red Line
Life of Brian (with the rest of Pyton right behind--minus Jabberwocky)
The Third Man
Already mentioned (good calls I might not have pulled out): Chinatown, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Sting & Shawshank Redemption (for about the same reasons they were listed before, plus just great plots, twists, etc.), Duck Soup or Night at the Opera...and, yeah, have to admit that Animal House (and the entire National Lampoon writing staff back then) buckled me.
A River Runs Through It was a decent try by Redford, and he did a better job than I though he would, but if anyone has seen that movie (let alone liked it) without reading the book, well, get to the library, dammit! It's a true American classic...and a very, very, very short novel if your pressed for time.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2005 - 12:28am PT
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Well locker's no heretic, a set of Kubricks. Could it be that some people pay attention to the Director credit? One Kubrick not mentioned so far. How could Paths of Glory be overlooked? (Yet another runner up.)
How about some brief explanations of their personal significance?
BTW of the 10 other runners up, not mentioned yet;
Double Indemnity, made me consider issues of morality as a child
From Here To Eternity, shattered my belief in existentialism as irrepresible
Inherit The Wind, made me question authority
In The Heat Of The Night, left off where White Man's Burden picked up
The Mission, a beautiful and appropriately cynical view of "syphalization"
Thirteen Days, I remember stocking our Connecticutt basement. Can't believe I survived...
Allright who's a Marx Brothers fan?
What was the one where Groucho says,"Stucco? Oh you can get stuck oh...." It echoes in my mind every time I look at a real estate investment.
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WoodyS
Trad climber
Riverside
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:36am PT
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One more: Bridge on the River Kwai.
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mtwoodsonguide
Big Wall climber
San Diego
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:44am PT
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Innocent Voices, child soldiers and the US intervention in the uprising in El Salvador. Republican or Democrat, how can we support some of these governments and why is a third of the world kept in poverty.
Far and Away, a good historical movie about the Irish potato phamon, the industrial revolution, sweat shops and workers rights, westward expansion, imigration and racisism against imigrants (then it was Irish, it was some else before them and Mexicans now).
Forrest Gump, history 101 of the 2nd half of the last century, kind of like the Billy Joel song.
Rambo, disinfrancised vietnam veteran
Manchurian Candidate or The Candidate, the ugliness of politics
Jeremiah Johnson or Centenial, excellent histories of westward expansion.
I'm not even sure why I like some of those I listed.
Road Warrior could be interchaged with Water World something about the lone wolf helping people.
The Postman is something about after catostrophy militants take control and eventually civilians rise up to free themselves.
JCR has some good picks, I haven't seen most of those, The Battle of Algiers and The Killing Fields are supposed to be good. I though All Quiet on the Western Front didn't do the book justice but for the time it probabally did.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2005 - 12:47am PT
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Don't get me wrong Tombstone was great, but Kasdan did it more accurately with whatsisface. Showed the duality of our "best known law man" actually a drunk and should've-been-hung horse thief early in his career.
Yeah I like Kilmer's huckleberry routine but its Kilmer. The actual Doc was far more morbid and perhaps more unpredictably deadly. I think that Earp knew when to leave him alone.
Reminds me of myself and Copeland.
Bottom line; Russell beat Costner but Quaid beat even Kilmer yet more. Perhaps Quaid's most astounding performance.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:58am PT
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I'll second the Mission and Cohen Brother's films, LOTR trilogy too.
Not mentioned yet.
Gandhi (wadda ya expect from me, Eastern Peace)
Brother Sun Sister Moon (Western Peace)
King of Hearts (Euro Peace)
Matrix, Truman Show, Sixth Sense (world is not as you see it)
Pleasantville, Harold and Maude (funny as hell, great music, live life!)
off the top of my head anyway (not a movie, my closing statement)
peace
karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2005 - 01:35am PT
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Thought you were headed to Moab?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2005 - 01:37am PT
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Damn locker, I meant Karl going to Moab.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2005 - 01:40am PT
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Yeah locker, I think many are missing the point.
Its about life imitating art. What films have most influenced the way we look at the world?
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Loom
climber
167 stinking feet above seal level : (
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Oct 10, 2005 - 01:54am PT
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Princess Mononoke (Japanese)-- Anime adventure that presents a complex picture of humanity's relationship to Nature.
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter . . . and Spring (Korean) -- there's always hope that your worst doesn't have to define you
The Corporation -- a documentary; why this way and not some other? demand better
Das Boot (German) and The Deer Hunter -- war: the good, bad, and hopeless pointlessness of it
Election -- life can get really tacky
Crimes and Misdemeanors -- morality and God and what the hell do they have to do with life as it really plays out here on earth
Happiness -- happiness? Irony overdose; poor Joy.
Irreversible(French) -- it stayed with me, but I don't recommend it. This most effective use of reverse editing made me care; it was brutal
The Ox-Bow Incident -- yeah, nothin' wrong with a little torture; we know you're a terrorist so talk
Scott
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 10, 2005 - 02:06am PT
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The story of Liver Eating Johnson was more legend than truth according to people in the Billings area. He was raising cabbage on an island in the yellowstone River in later years.
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