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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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You believe in Big Foot and you think gays are a problem? Pretty f*#ked up thinking on display here. And 'Interdimensionality' is really someone's serious response to the fact no one has actually seen a Big Foot? Really? Interdimensionality? Are you f*#king kidding me (I didn't bother reading the first post that far due to the realities of MVP). I'm amazed the Bush administration didn't come up with the same excuse for not finding WMD's in Iraq - you know, Saddam was keeping them in another dimension ready for use at a moment's notice.
And you want to talk about corrosive societal influences? I'd say the amalgamation of dark-ages thinking, contemporary mythology, and pseudo-science gobbledygook like this is way, way up near the top of the list. Another case where a little rationale thought goes a long, long friggin' way.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Let it to Healy to bring BF's and fags together!@@@
I have no problem with either. Did I ever say I did?
Also, the whole inter-dimensional thing is pretty far fetched. They hide, they don't change dimensions. Fags that is...everyone knows BF's do that!!@
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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But what about when your lesbian daughter brings one home?
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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HEY
Swampsquatches are REAL.
They are omnivores.
They'll eat anything!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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That's breeding material, bro!
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rotten johnny
Social climber
mammoth lakes, ca
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i have an uncle that managed a sawmill in redding in the 60's.....i remember him talking about these full 50 gal. oil drums that mysteriously ended up a 100 yds. away , on level ground , from their original location...there was no explanation as to how they mysteriously moved a 100 yds. and my uncle felt that sasquatch could have moved them.....he spent a lot of time in the wilderness scouting out timber sales and believed that there was such a beast.....as for my own personal encounters.....drinking big foot Ale has produced , at 9% , a humming sound and an interdimensional state of confusion while rocks fell around me.....
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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I believe the native american stuff way more
than western ridicule - can't actually "see"
electricity either (lighting is heat energy from
the rapid release of electrons) - there are many
mysteries - the fanatics who staff the mass movement
called consumerism will always shout down anything
that does not pertain to the exploitation of the earth
for material gain; earth religions were suppressed.
all the animals are of a higher order and we are all
part of a "family". what would sasquatch benefit by
dropping its mysterious cloak? extermination?
people are dangerous, they act as if western civilization
were the beginning and end of reality. all the western
schools teach is the limited scope needed to continue
or manage the rape of our planet, and the robotics of
mass conformity - anytime you challenege a pillar of
of consumerism (TV) you will be met with violent
opposition and they will never admit to being fanatics
because they are in the "eye" of the hysteria and cannot
even see it. only now, finally, we are beginning to
see westerners realize this in real numbers, so the
amount of exceptions or "mass movement dropouts"
are growing.
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Climbing dropout
climber
British Columbia
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2009 - 01:03am PT
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Mimicry is a well known attribute of Squatch in the BF research world. Most commonly they imitate owls. I attended the 2006 BFRO trip to BC and was told lots of stories, the one I remember well is the guy whom observed a trio of Bigfoot descending through an open forested slope, hooting back and forth to each other like owls. I have heard twice of people reporting hearing semi trucks in the wilderness complete with jake brakes, as part of their bigfoot encounter.
But it's not the empirical observeables that intrigue me anymore about this topic.
It's the unexplainable stuff that has my interest.
The world was once thought to be flat.
Galalielo was deemed a heretic
I truly think that Sasquatch holds some cards for the theoretical physicists to play games with.
It's certainly way over my head whats going on out there in the woods at night.
LEB be careful what you wish for, it might not be what you want.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Ray, so now seeing electical currents and animals are roughly equivalent sensory exercises. Right, gotcha. And I'm a minion of the materialistic consumerism. Right, gotcha. Suppressed Earth religions? Check - I'm married to a member of the Colville Tribe, please, tell me all about it. Jesus, it's getting thick in this thread. MVP, and all it implies, is the name of the game folks - unless of course you're subscribing to the interdimensionality theory.
P.S. Galileo, and any of us, need only go out in the backyard on any clear night to confirm his theory. Invoking his name here is the true heresy given he is one of the founding fathers of modern science.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Does PaganMonkey boy count?
Actually sis that's (9 yr old) more advanced than a lot of adults i've met.
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Climbing dropout
climber
British Columbia
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2009 - 01:20am PT
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As far as intelligence goes obviously they are not building cities or even houses. They sleep in the open, as you will see next year when the documentary Adrian is working on is completed and released. I think caves are part of the picture too. They aren't very smart imho, its not logic and IQ which enable them to elude humans. It's their mastery of the unknown (to us) components of the natural world, I have previously refered to, that gives them their advantage.
I think in the past before firearms came to this continent, sightings and encounters were much more common.
I think observing and spooking humans is their biggest form of entertainment.
There is a native guy in maple ridge I have gone hiking with, he is in two of my videos. he has told me some really strange stuff, I believe him because whenever I go for a hike with him its total weirdness.
He has told me that he has gone for ten mile hikes and of course been followed or had a sighting over the course of hours. Upon his return home, his wife asked him "Why are you back so early ? You have only been gone an hour."
I am told it's called the "sometime place" their other world ...
if you were telepathic, or senior members of your "tribe" were, locating other individuals in a well disperesed population would not be impossible. This would assist with reproduction efforts.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Healy, don't confuse wierd sh#t with unexplainable sh#t. Some of the reports come from retired military snipers, hunters, biologists, and guides who, in their words, could not explain the "animal" they saw. It was not a man, but a large bipedal creature...
I don't doubt them. They have nothing to gain by lying.
Some of the BF freaks do though....
EDIT: Jaybro, Pagan is only half BF...he don't count.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Lots of Shaman claim and believe they are taking spiritual journeys, but you can still sit next to them while they're gone.
MVP. No amount of 'eluding' would prevent repeated, sustained, and well-documented interactions between our species and any viable 'large bipedal' species.
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murcy
climber
sanfrancisco
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I myself am now convinced that Climbing Dropout has heard from friends of friends of Sasquatches about what they call their other dimensions. Where can I send my money?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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As a climber, I've had numerous Stinkfoot encounters.
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Climbing dropout
climber
British Columbia
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2009 - 01:34am PT
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The story is they enter a dormant state and retire to caves. Some remain conscious and act as sentries, there must be a rotation schedule to it.
Randy, my friend from maple ridge, he has given me a picture he took this spring which I have at home which where I am not this week. Anyways he has told me that the ones he has seen up close have horrible sores on their bodies.
I am sure it is less than an ideal life they lead. Imagine a shitty bivie that lasts all winter. They must cache food, they have been reports of that.
The plethora of BF tracks found continent wide cannot be dismissed. Some evidence is there, it's wether or not you choose to accept it.
I plug the remaining holes in the mystery with the Indian interpretation, which match my experiences.
Yah other people have told me stuff, some of it I beleive some of it I don't. Rendering hemselves invisible, yup thats definitely part of whats happened around me, no second hand tale there.
There are people who claim to be in telepathic contact with them, I have no interest in going that far, I'll settle for 2nd hand stories.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Here's another weird one. In his follow up about other encounters, he mentions a 'drunken' deer. This jives with a hunter story I've heard where they followed what appeared to be a large bipedal and then got disoriented and almost 'drugged' by an odor.
They speculated they may omit a defensive odor that is disorienting. Also follows my theory that the BF's like deer sometimes. He got pissed when the hunters took his 'kill'.
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=11656
I'd have to look for the other 'tale'.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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OK, I'll belittle myself now that I see I'm in good company.
Susan and I were bivied just above the circ#m-montane trail at the foot of the Shoestring Gl. Ape Canyon was about 2 miles due east across the Plains of Abraham. Ape Canyon was the site of a battle between a group of miners and a 'tribe' of Sasquatch in 1924. The miners claimed to have shot and killed one of the Sasquatch before retreating to their cabin for the night. During the night a large group of Sasquatch trundled boulders down upon the cabin and even tried to break into it.
"In 1950 a skier named Jim Carter was with a group of other men, but went off by himself to film a documentary. He was never seen again, despite a massive search. One of the search team members said he had a chilling feeling of being watched the entire time. Carter's ski tracks seemed to indicate that he took off at a very high speed, making tremendous jumps that no experienced skier would make unless he was frightened beyond reason or being pursued." http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Ape_Canyon/id/1915173
It was late summer or early fall, maybe '73. Without a tent there was no resisting the full moon boring its way into my medulla oblongata; I was wide awake. The fact that I was going to solo the Shoestring with my Clovis era tools contributed to my insomnia.
Around midnight I started hearing the sounds well described by Studly and Pcousar. I've spent a lot of time in the wild on a number of continents and I've never heard anything like this. It started about a mile or more to the south of us but came closer after each three to five minute interval. It was clearly following the trail as 'nobody' in their right mind would try to walk across the tortuous lava flow aptly named the Plains of Abraham. Susan was blissfully unaware sleeping the sleep of the just, thank heavens. I was almost as terrified of her awakening as I was of the approaching entity. Why she didn't I can't begin to fathom although it wasn't extremely loud, just unearthly primal. When it got within a few hundred yards I threw off my sleeping bag and held my ice tools in each hand ready to do battle. I was afraid to take a better position for fear of awakening Susan. When it got directly below us on the trail it could not have been more than 100' away and I was sure it could hear the deafening sound of my pulse pounding furiously against my eardrums. Then there was silence. Though there wasn't a breath of wind I was certain it had smelled us. I sat upright gripping the tools. I stared down the treed slope but couldn't see the trail because of a drop-off. It knew we were there and on some plane knew that I knew it was there. The silence screamed onwards.
After 15 minutes I think I allowed myself to recline but still clenched the tools. I guess I dozed off eventually but only just. About 0400 I decided it was safe to go climb. Yes, it was safe to go soloing! I never told Susan.
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