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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 11:12pm PT
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not photoshopped, fuca? heckuva bright milky way ...
doc F--
divinity is an old idea and part of human nature. gobs of gods for the longest time, then it all gets boiled down to one great god, with a variety of contradictory attributes. it was simpler, really, with polytheism--the contradictions could be embodied in different characters, and it didn't have to make a helluva lot of sense.
christians have devised a trinity god--one god in three divine persons. this is a mystery, i was told by the nuns, that we'll never be able to comprehend, but god seems to have clued us in on it anyway. big of the fellow(s). go shopping--we'll take care of the rest.
take a side trip into anthropology and mythology, doc. it will pacify your mind.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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May 20, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
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Might I recommend: Book of Greek Myths, by Daulaires. It's A+.
None is better at dispelling God Jehovah for those raised to take the bible stories literally.
Good job, Wanda, at drawing virgin analogies, etc, with other Gods on the other thread. Yeah, times are changing. Finally at long last. The post-religious finally have a medium and a voice. Thanks internet. Thanks forums. Thanks blogs.
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WBraun
climber
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May 20, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
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Book of Greek Myths, by Daulaires.
Another mental speculator who ultimately doesn't know either.
All your sources are mental speculators with no real disiplic succession going back billions of years to the original source.
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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 11:20pm PT
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fuca--
"how the winds are laughing
"they laugh with all their might ...
"calves are easily bound and slaughted
"never knowing the reason why
"but whoever treasures freedom
"like the swallow, has learned to fly."
them stars older than a billion, sucka. planet earth is four, wiser prevailing heads tell me.
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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May 20, 2010 - 11:20pm PT
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So are yours Werner, you just can't see it.
edit- thanks Tony, C&J's Donna, Donna
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WBraun
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May 20, 2010 - 11:23pm PT
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Another big guess by you Wanda ....
Your sources only go back temporarily and fleeting.
Nothing bonafide nor summon bonum.
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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May 20, 2010 - 11:25pm PT
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Your assumptions about how far back your sources go are mental speculations.
Your sources themselves are riddled with mental speculations.
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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
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post #413 on this thread shows a picture of alitheia. she is that universal. notice that there is nothing male about her. why is that?
if any of you is about to have a daughter, name her alitheia. you won't regret it.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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May 20, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
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Jealous and angry, Athena turned Arachne into a spider.
So the question is: Is it reasonable to think of yourself as "agnostic" concerning this ancient Greek religious claim? Is it reasonable (as an individual of the premiere decision making species on the planet) to not make a decision based on a lifetime of experience and education (science education and general life education) and to not take a stand regarding this ol'time religious claim?
In contrast, in the view of many, it is "reasonable" (1) to make the decision and to take a stand regarding Athena and Arachne and (2) to extrapolate to Jehovah and Lot's wife (turned into a pillar of salt) and baby god Jesus and resurrection on the third day.
Because "you were not there" is no longer good enough reason to plead agnosticism and to not make a decision and take a stand. Get involved, exercise your decision-making power and take a stand. In the interest of better practices in the practice of living. Insofar as you haven't already, do it today.
And the naysayers will call your decision-making and expressions and declarations of it "arrogant" or "close-minded" or "preachy" or "elitist" or " exhibitions in "faux scholarship"-- let them. Get involved. Be the change you seek in the world.
Poor Brawny. Adapt, upgrade. Push the envelope like you did when you were a youngblood. Be not afraid, the sky won't fall.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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fuca! a fellow folkie!
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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May 20, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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Werner,
Just because the Bhagavad-gita doesn't say might, maybe, could, probably, seems, etc. doesn't mean it's "bonafide" and not just more made up speculations.
Summum Bonum is a mental speculation.
edit- Tony, not a big fan, I've heard them before (and like them), and I'm quick with google.
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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
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gimme that ol' time religion, it's good enough for me!
it was good enough for silage, it was good enough for silage, it was good enough for silage, and it's good enough for me!
it was good for uncle anus, it was good for uncle anus, it was good for uncle anus, and it's good enough for me!
it was good for the profit motive, it was good for the profit motive, it was good for the profit motive, and it's good enough for me!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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May 20, 2010 - 11:37pm PT
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That used to be my favorite mocking mantra. Revived when I watched Inherit the Wind. I made up my own "reframed" lyrics, too.
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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 11:38pm PT
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<--- drinking jepson syrah 2007 here (it helps me hit the RETURN button).
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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May 21, 2010 - 12:07am PT
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sing it to us, huffcuss.
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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May 21, 2010 - 12:20am PT
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Klimmer,
Where is the strength of your convictions?
If you truly believe this with all your heart you should preach it everyday, everywhere.
I suggest you start with parent night at the high school where you teach.
Why not send this important info home tomorrow with your students as a flyer?
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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May 21, 2010 - 12:23am PT
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let's take a little turn here. let's talk about sickness. these last couple posts are about the sickness of compulsive belief.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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May 21, 2010 - 12:24am PT
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Bears repeating I think:
re: Jealous and angry, Athena turned Arachne into a spider.
Because "you were not there" is no longer good enough reason to plead agnosticism and to not make a decision and take a stand. Get involved, exercise your decision-making power and take a stand. In the interest of better practices in the practice of living. Insofar as you haven't already, do it today.
And the naysayers will call your decision-making and expressions or declarations of it "arrogant" or "close-minded" or "preachy" or "elitist" or " exhibitions in "faux scholarship"-- let them. Get involved. Be the change you seek in the world.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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May 21, 2010 - 12:27am PT
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Wanda,
Seperation of Church and State.
But I do teach everyday just by the way I live my life and treat others -- The Golden Rule. It is a powerful silent ministry.
We (those of faith) teach right here everyday.
Few sadly listen.
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