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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 18, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x536302
Does God Exist? A Debate (Part 1 of 2)
Stossel Debate between an Atheist, an Agnostic, and a Believer
Everyone will find someone to agree with here . . .
Part 1: (7:46 min.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz4R0GHfM-Y
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5wdSHONzNM
The well known Catholic Priest has good points, he is a Theistic Evolutionist, agrees with the Big Bang, but he could go so much further.
There is scientific evidence that supports The Good Book. If someone wants physical evidence that points to an Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient GOD, the evidence is vastly available.
The Scientific World is at a loss to explain it: Biblical Archeology supports The Good Book. Prophecy fulfillment supports The Good Book. Bible Code supports that The Good Book is authored by GOD. The Star of Bethlehem phenomenon and the fact that we now know what occurred, and you can use an Astronomy observation computer program like "Starry Night" to validate it. The Shroud of Turin and the amazing work they have been able to do with forensic science. The science of Comet/Asteroid Impact Theory proves the validity of The Good Book. The Good Book precisely demonstrates the phenomenon of Impact Theory and many events that have occurred in the past, present, and yet to come in the future are fully revealed in The Good Book. Modern man has only come to the full recognition of Impact Theory and Science within the last 60 years or less. Yet The Good Book has very accurately given historical examples and very accurately describes a serious and massive impact to occur in Earth's future, and this was all written over 2000 years ago. Read The Book of Revelations.
GOD and his word are way ahead of man and our tool of science on many levels. Both are in agreement, it is just that GOD has already told us the way it is, and now we are just beginning to understand these truths through the very slow and methodical tool of modern science. One validates the other. Read PhD Gerald Schroeder: The Science of GOD.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Dec 18, 2010 - 01:29pm PT
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Rector,
it occurred to me, Richard Feynman was also fond of anthropomorphizing. Or personifying. Like Carl Sagan, he also often used it to improve the communications.
Examples: (1) X "wants" to Z - just like a ball "wants" to roll downhill. (2) A carbon atom and an oxygen atom "like" each other, they "want" each other - except there is an energy barrier at normal temperatures.
I don't think there's no getting around it. Even if there is, many wouldn't want to. Success is a function of the communicator.
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go-B
climber
Revelation 7:12
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:55am PT
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We all receive the same incomprehensible Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and Father God!
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Dec 19, 2010 - 12:07pm PT
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it occurred to me, Richard Feynman was also fond of anthropomorphizing. Or personifying. Like Carl Sagan, he also often used it to improve the communications.
It's a form of artistic license at best, but it does muddy up the point that these are things that happen without conscious volition; deeply troubling to those who find comfort in an a priori, ego-based cosmology.
Whatever gets you through the night.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Dec 19, 2010 - 12:53pm PT
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Good point. There is art in it. For better or worse. Like climbing.
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go-B
climber
Revelation 7:12
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Dec 20, 2010 - 08:07am PT
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Romans 6:23, For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Dec 20, 2010 - 12:06pm PT
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re: proof
Drinks for thought: (1) proof to the whiskey standard, (2) proof to the wine or champagne standard, (3) proof to the beer standard.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 20, 2010 - 12:47pm PT
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MH2
climber
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Dec 20, 2010 - 03:25pm PT
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Gunkie,
Thanks for the link. A surprisingly long, coherent, and emphatic statement from Ricky Gervais.
I like it, but
"75 percent of Americans are God- ‐fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God- ‐fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists"
Something odd, there. Americans who are neither God-fearing Christians nor atheists are disproportionately common in prisons. Why?
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 20, 2010 - 03:54pm PT
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A surprisingly long, coherent, and emphatic statement from Ricky Gervais.
The guy is full of sh'it and has no clue ....
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MH2
climber
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Dec 21, 2010 - 04:11am PT
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"Muslims...duh"
"The guy is full of sh'it."
Always fun to hear from the READY! FIRE! AIM! brigade.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Dec 21, 2010 - 04:23am PT
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God, or a God, the biggest one, or whatever, would be the one who could accept the most responsibility.
Responsible for everything, everywhere. The one who is in control and willing to fess-up to things, even if they aren't working out.
You can hand that all off to some big guy in the sky and tell yourself, "I'm nobody."
Or you can own up and put your shoulder to the wheel. Just like young Jesus.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Dec 21, 2010 - 05:22am PT
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Estimates of Atheists in America seldom agree.
American Atheist .. 9 % .. 30 million
World Almanac .. 0.5% .. 1.6 million (North America)
Aris Study .. 0.4% .. 902,000 (Graduate Center of the City University of New York interviewing over 50,00 adults in 2001)
Gallup Poll 2008 .. 6%
Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life .. 1.6% (2007 study interviewing 35,000 adults)
2006, Harris Interactive poll,.. 4%
1995, Encyclopedia Britanna .. 0.3%
JCnot4me.com .. 35%
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go-B
climber
Revelation 7:12
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Dec 21, 2010 - 06:31am PT
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Matthew 20:16, "So the last will be first, and the first last.”...
...we all get there at the same time!
-John MacArthur
Jesus makes us right with the father, are you ready for that day?...
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Dec 21, 2010 - 07:43am PT
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go b proselytizing
elsewhere please.
i do not wish to
speak for jdf,
but your
cut&paste angle
is tiresome
not to mention
disrespectful
to the
question
posed.
the dogmatic
pigeon hole
you've stuck
your mind in
is obvious,
if that is
what your
getting
at.
off now to
make jam
out of
the fruits
of my labor.
love and respect.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Dec 21, 2010 - 08:57am PT
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perhaps not
dingus.
tho some of
the wisdom
and knowledge
imparted here
is what garnered
my respect.
my folly for
taking the
bait.
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go-B
climber
Revelation 7:12
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Dec 22, 2010 - 08:12am PT
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Luke 24:46, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, 47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
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go-B
climber
Revelation 7:12
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Dec 23, 2010 - 07:49am PT
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Psalms 22:16-18, For dogs encompass me;
a company of evildoers encircles me;
they have pierced my hands and feet —
17 I can count all my bones—
they stare and gloat over me;
18 they divide my garments among them,
and for my clothing they cast lots.
Psalms 34:20, He keeps all his bones;
not one of them is broken.
Psalms 69:21, They gave me poison for food,
and for my thirst they gave me sour wine to drink.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 24, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
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Gobee, stop being such a door knob.
If YOU have something to say, then say it.
But you are not making any points or winning anyone over by copy and bible pastes.
In fact, Gobee, you are cheapening your own cause.
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