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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:11pm PT
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As long as you are cool paying for a bunch of cops (how many exactly?) to hang out and party every night just in case a Mexican Muslim charges in with an AR-15.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:13pm PT
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Was that the sound of a trap snapping I just heard?
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:14pm PT
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In answer to your question, the ideal would be that the cops would be plainclothes and not "staring at them" but instead dancing with them. Are there not enough gay cops to go around for this sort of duty?
Just a rough estimate but I would say all of them?
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F
climber
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:15pm PT
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How much freedom is enough?
Ask 'Lil Bang Bang. ^^^
His rights are violated every time an employee of the .gov dares to fart on the same planet as him.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:23pm PT
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Lined up a pigeon hunt for tomorrow instead F. Wanna tag along?
The wheat harvest is upon us, even you might be able to hit one.
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F
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:29pm PT
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Ummmmm, as per my earlier reply to your question. No. I'm busy this week. You know, bonking sockeye on the head and putting them in the freezer.
Have fun with your pigeon hunt. I heard they taste like pigeon.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
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Was that the sound of a trap snapping I just heard?
LOL. Esco for the win.
Sadly, now I'm just too tired to retrieve it, what with all the placing and baiting and covering and all.
Seriously, though, it's just amazing that the libs don't get it. Like you, they should have been able to follow this through from beginning to end.
Blinded to the obvious result, I guess, which keeps them from seeing the implications for what they are.
Nightie night.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
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Well, let's be honest. F isn't the brightest libtard in the drawer. Lol.
Well played. Sleep tight. And if someone breaks into your home to kill you and rape your wife, I hope you have enough LOVE (and ammo) to defend her.
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F
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:43pm PT
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Just remember, asserting that you are the smartest pig at the trough always makes it true.
See Donald Trump. That's his signature move. And yours.
Sleep well. With an AR-15, and a rocket launcher, tucked FREEDUM!, under your pillow.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 30, 2016 - 08:44pm PT
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I heard they taste like pigeon.
In truth, they taste like Muskrat. But Larry doesn't approve.
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F
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Jun 30, 2016 - 09:21pm PT
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Don't worry about me and the wife. We've got 69 gay cops in plainclothes armed with over/unders. Almost as safe as you are.
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Jun 30, 2016 - 11:06pm PT
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arming you over and under? Is that some kind of code?
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bushdoctor
Social climber
ca
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Jun 30, 2016 - 11:29pm PT
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fired up on that video. thanks for sharing he is right a lot of people get pushed :(
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jun 30, 2016 - 11:33pm PT
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@ High Desert DJ...
Modern gun control did indeed start due to racist fear...and so did the idea of gun ownership as a means of defense.
The idea of gun ownership for self defense started due to racist fear?
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splitter
Trad climber
HighwayToHell
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Esco - ...I hope you have enough LOVE (and ammo)...
God is Love.
In God I trust. Period!
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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HighwayToHell
which is it?
God is Love.
In God I trust. Period!
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Well looky there. I wonder why this hasn't been reported in the media much?
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/30/co...olina-nightclub
"A concealed carrier is being credited with preventing further violence at a South Carolina nightclub.
Spartanburg County deputies say 32-year-old Jody Ray Thompson got into an argument outside Playoffz nightclub in Lyman early Sunday morning. He then opened fire into the nearby crowd, wounding three people.
A man fired back at Thompson in self-defense, striking him in the leg.
Deputies say the hero had a valid concealed weapons permit and will not be facing charges.
None of the injuries were said to be life-threatening.
Thompson was charged with four counts of attempted murder, possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime, and unlawful carrying of a weapon.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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"Reasonable Gun Control" requires that it finds its foundation in a reasonable set of laws in the first place.
On average, most people on this forum commit three felonies a day. And you want to restrict access to guns by felons?
I'm all for it, but first we start at the bottom and work our way up, not at the top and work our way down.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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In terms of firearm crime, it's a bandaid on gangrene.
That is a very poignant and accurate description, imho.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Escopeta posted But you have to ask yourself WHY and does that number go back up if we start disarming the average citizen?
I would bet any amount of money the answer is yes.
Fortunately for you since congress has effectively banned government research on the issue you can just make up whatever outcome you want. I can tell you that I have yet to see a single GSW come into my hospital on a patient who was shot because he was committing a crime and someone other than a cop shot him. Lots of accidental shootings (self and others), suicides and the rare attempted homicide but not a single criminal shot by a citizen. I am sure they happen from time to time and I do not live in a high crime area. Cato has a handy map to keep track of them:
You'll note that there are no dates on that map or on the incidents and no citations for them but let's say that all those were from 2015. Well over 200 people a day are killed/injured by guns in America. You are suggesting that America take a medicine that kills/harms many hundreds of people for every 1 person it purportedly helps. Additionally, "stopped a crime" isn't necessarily a great metric. If someone gets shot trying to mug someone or rob someone's house but is themselves unarmed, is that really a success?
Stand your ground is incredibly problematic. I was sparring with a guy recently who seemed to fit the bill when it came to "responsible gun owner." He had carried for 30 years and was bragging that he had never actually drawn his gun once but there was this one time that an incredibly drunk guy was being aggressive and threatening in his front yard. He was talking about how glad he was that the man's girlfriend had talked him down because otherwise he would have been "forced to stand my ground." I asked him if he really had no other option. He reiterated that the unarmed man was strong, threatening and belligerent and it would have brought him no pleasure but he would have had to shoot him. I again inquired whether or not that was his only option. Was he wounded and couldn't move? Was he cornered? Was there not an option to simply run away and call the police? He refused to answer after that.
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