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zBrown
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Feb 28, 2016 - 02:44pm PT
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Amen Brother. I'm gonna hurry on home for the final rounds.
Gotta love that name "Boom Boom", but orale, Bobby's a home boy de Pacoima.
LIKEWISE I'M SURE.
FD by TKO.
Bobby Chacon Jr., Son of Boxer, Shot to Death : Street crime: Youth, 17, is gunned down in the parking lot of a department store in Panorama City. Police say the killing is gang-related.
ScALIA SAID i COULD USE THE IMAGE. IT'S PROTECTED SPEECH.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2016 - 06:02am PT
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The president will announce his nominee for the court in two hours.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 16, 2016 - 06:23am PT
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And the republican obsrtuctionism that is largely responsible for the current deplorable state they find their party in will begin anew.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2016 - 06:25am PT
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If they want to continue digging their political grave, I hope the democrats hand them a nice, big, shiny shovel.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Mar 16, 2016 - 06:26am PT
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They're on the wrong side of public opinion on this. Helps Hillary.
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couchmaster
climber
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Mar 16, 2016 - 08:13am PT
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Fat Dad said, quote: "Blahblah,
My posts are directed to you because you are a chickenshit incapable of defending the crap you spew under the disguise of legal argument. You have not provided any facts or support for any position you have offered in this thread. Rather than attempt to do that, you have merely name called and dodged the issue, which is more or less an admission that you nothing you can offer. Still, that's fine. You can call me whatever you want. I'm a litigator; I don't care. I don't have to defend the fact that I am a liberal. We see reality, not pretend that the facts are something else as a basis of supporting our belief. Put up or shut up.' and - " kind of threw up in my mouth reading blahblah's missive to Scalia's memory. What a load of hogwash my friend. I suspect someone was a member of the Federalist Society. Nothing else would explain such a complete divorce from reality when reviewing the man's records. "
LOL, want to try again with some facts and less name calling?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Mar 16, 2016 - 09:07am PT
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Scalia may have been with a women (provided to him by his gracious host that had a case in front of the Supreme Court) the night he died.
According to some News item I heard.
They all know this, so they want to keep it hush hush.
No Autopsy will be necessary, it was for sure Heart Failure.
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 16, 2016 - 09:10am PT
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According to some News item I heard.
link?
thanks Craig
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Mar 16, 2016 - 09:33am PT
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Great Obama went the way I hoped picking a moderate. Not only because I feel a moderate is more likely to make decisions based on the law instead of their own ideology, but because if the Reps continue to block a vote they will be clearly identified as obstructionist to independents and lots of moderate republicans and they will lose big in November and hopefully start acting more reasonable next year.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 16, 2016 - 09:37am PT
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Everybody knows he was taken out.
except the public ....
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 16, 2016 - 09:41am PT
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and hopefully start acting more reasonable next year.
oh please...
what universe do you live in? ;) Act reasonable when President Clinton takes the office for eight more years? Hopefully she learns the lesson from Obama - don't expect to work with them cuz it ain't gonna happen.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Mar 16, 2016 - 09:59am PT
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Great Obama went the way I hoped picking a moderate. Not only because I feel a moderate is more likely to make decisions based on the law instead of their own ideology . . .
A moderate judge makes decisions based on their ideology in just the same way that a non-moderate judge does--the decisions are just based on moderate ideology.
Here's a recent short essay from Judge Posner (probably the most influential living American judge) that may give some insight to how judges decide socially significant cases.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-supreme-court-is-a-political-court-republicans-actions-are-proof/2016/03/09/4c851860-e142-11e5-8d98-4b3d9215ade1_story.html
As Posner explains, Supreme Court justices don't really "interpret" the Constitution, they create its meaning. Of course that creation will depend on the political and general worldview of each justice.
I like Posner's statement that law is "analytically weak, in the sense that there are no settled principles for resolving the most difficult and consequential legal controversies." I think a lot of people have a hard time accepting that the SCOTUS just makes up most of what it does (that is socially significant)--there's no reason anyone should take my word for it, but you may want to at least consider Posner's views.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 16, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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That mealy mouthed, multiple chinned McConnell won't even begin to consider the merits of the nominee.
Don't the morons that constitute the Republican Establishment realize that this type of blatant obsrtuctionism is a major cause for their coming demise. They have made virtually no attempt to govern from Obama's inaugaration to the present.
My how much fun it has been to see them coming apart at the seams.....roll on Trump, roll on.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Mar 16, 2016 - 10:20am PT
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Why do recent Democratic Presidents pick moderates and Republican ones extremists?
The best satire makes one uncertain whether it was offered in jest or in truth. This must be satire, since the last moderate a Democrat appointed to the court was probably Byron White by Kennedy.
John
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 16, 2016 - 10:29am PT
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John, I was saved for three months from political news by being in Patagonia. I must say that I'm enjoying the show much more than I would have imagined. Your party brought this on themselves.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Mar 16, 2016 - 10:57am PT
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I'm sure you are, Jim, just as much as I despair over it. The difference between our parties is that a majority of your party's voters haven't disowned pargmatism. A majority of mine have.
John
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Mar 16, 2016 - 11:13am PT
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Yeah Nature I'm not holding my breath. Likely the republicans will double down on stupid and be more obstructionist. It will take a few big losses for them to be more reasonable. But one can hope.
Blahblah. I pretty much agree. Scalia saying he just followed the wording of the law was BS. If that was true he would have had to vote with the liberals at some times. However I do think you are more likely to see moderates being swing votes. I was impressed with Roberts voting for obamacare. Wether it was following the law, thinking it was justice, or just for the appearance of neutrality of the court.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 16, 2016 - 11:33am PT
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LOL, want to try again with some facts and less name calling? Did that already several times, with no substantive response. He appears incapable of it, or just defers to what John said, passing if off as his own. That was my rant just writing the guy off.
To more substantive matters, I really like the nomination of Judge Merrick. Impecable credentials and tremendous personal history. The ONLY way the Republican Congress could not (credibly) approve him is by not voting.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Mar 16, 2016 - 11:43am PT
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Do the democrats want him to be confirmed, or want to win political advantage? Somewhere in between? The two outcomes (obstructionism vs confirmation) seem so politically different.
Is the choice of such a moderate nominee, who has gained approval from republicans in the past, a product of republican obstructionism? Is this nomination a "win" for republican tactics? If he wins confirmation, what's the political upside/downside for the two parties?
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 16, 2016 - 11:51am PT
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If he wins confirmation, what's the political upside/downside for the two parties?
I don't see any effect on the Democrats if he is confirmed, just business as usual
but the Republicans have majority control of the Senate and if they confirm then
they will be seen as both backtracking on their vow to not even allow a vote,
and also to having given in to that hated black Muslim as President, their base would go nuts
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