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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Dec 14, 2010 - 07:29pm PT
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I confess. I might be having a conversion here. Just watched a second episode of Sarah Palin's Alaska. God and Country. Big family. Five children. Eight children. (The Gosselin's visited. You know, Kate Plus Eight, something like that.) Huntin and Fishin. Living off the land, God's resources. God bless. You have to admit - it is a pretty appealing narrative. Combined with the strategy- If you can't beat em, join em - it's all pretty compelling. Life's so short, why swim against the tide? We'll see...
EDIT No, sorry, I just got caught up in the moment, the storyline. Back to my senses.
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WBraun
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Dec 14, 2010 - 07:34pm PT
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don't you think we would all be believers
No
There will always be a class of atheists in the material world, the rebellious souls due to their poor fund of knowledge of the absolute truth.
Just like in the prison house most of the criminals there deny they are criminals and they were imprisoned by an unjust law or they even deny they committed a crime to begin with ....
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jstan
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Dec 14, 2010 - 08:47pm PT
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I keep coming back here because this is the thread to which people bring ideas.
Werner's prisoner may always claim he is innocent because that has become his "absolute truth." He "believes" that and so remains sane.
A realist, on the other hand, would say "I am here for whatever reason. What can I do here?"
The Birdman of Alcatraz would possibly be a realist.
Edit:
When each of us goes to work in the morning, freedom comes because of what we intend to accomplish.
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go-B
climber
Revelation 7:12
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Dec 14, 2010 - 08:55pm PT
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Nice wordsmith poem, Tung Gwok!
Thanks Jennie, for watching out!
Dr. F. pass me a tissue!
Thanks Norton!
It's funny how in courts they made you put your hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth, to add weight to your conscience if you have one!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Dec 14, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
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"I am here for whatever reason. What can I do here?"
Perfect.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 14, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
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Outstanding metaphor!
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jstan
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
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"It's funny how in courts they made you put your hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth, to add weight to your conscience if you have one!"
Gobee there is an assumed correlation between the bible and conscience. Lots of things like this are assumed in the world. Our assumptions are literally killing us.
As for courts:
Once when trying to learn about the process of divorce I attended a hearing. The lady, who was trying to regain possession of the house, swore her husband had threatened her by chopping up all the furniture with an axe.
The judge's obvious response would have been to hold the woman in court till an officer was available. And then to send them both to the house to see either that furniture or recent receipts for the furniture that was present. In the event this evidence was not found he should have had the woman charged with perjury.
In fact the judge did a double face palm and asked the two lawyers to "go out and get some kind of agreement."
By our behavior we are causing brutal cynicism to become the norm.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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Just see ....
How I have these guys spinning in their seats .....
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:00pm PT
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I'm dead serious ....
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
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Batso's words?
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:04pm PT
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compare people who believe in an invisible man in the sky to inmates at a mental institution
Perfect!
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
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I hung out with Batso for 2 winters.
Did you .... ?
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:09pm PT
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Guess
Since you're so good at it .....
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:15pm PT
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You believe you're educated.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
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Yes, speak for yourself ....
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:36pm PT
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Then why are you speaking for others .....
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
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Guess
Since you're expert .....
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 11:55pm PT
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Why would you or I want a religion to begin with?
Oh I get it, you want to fly and imitate a bird.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 15, 2010 - 12:01am PT
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Yes much better
Now you're doing what you know best and are expert at.
Guessing .....
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 15, 2010 - 12:06am PT
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You're getting desperate now ....
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