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rottingjohnny
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Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Mar 23, 2019 - 08:59pm PT
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Skip...once you get past civics I suggest you take French Couplings and nude drawing to broaden your horizons.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Mar 24, 2019 - 12:33am PT
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Mar 24, 2019 - 12:11pm PT
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Biden/Abrams ???
What do you think?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Mar 24, 2019 - 12:28pm PT
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Biden/Harris
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:03pm PT
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Haley / Sasse
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:06pm PT
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An old, rich, white guy paired with a smart black woman is still an old, rich, white guy.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:12pm PT
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Haley/Sasse?
I thought you were a Trump fan now, Edward....?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:12pm PT
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So difficult to keep up with all this.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:13pm PT
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Mueller finds no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion
The attorney general said Mueller did not take a clear position on whether the president obstructed justice.
By DARREN SAMUELSOHN and JOSH GERSTEIN 03/24/2019 03:12 PM EDT
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/24/breaking-news-barr-to-release-summary-of-mueller-report-1233771
UPDATE
Robert Mueller’s long-awaited Russia report does not take a clear position on whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice, according to a four-page summary of the special counsel’s findings released Sunday by Attorney General William Barr.
“For each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leave unresolved what the special counsel views as ‘difficult issues’ of law and fact concerning whether the President’s actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction,” Barr wrote.
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,’” Barr added. However, in an apparent departure from the four corners of Mueller’s report, Barr says he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein “have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”
Also, Robert Mueller said he did not find adequate evidence to show that officials with Donald Trump's presidential campaign aided Russian attempts to interfere with the 2016 election.
"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities," Mueller wrote in the findings released Sunday by the Justice Department.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:14pm PT
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Biden/Harris
While qualified, Abrams needs some experience in national politics, which Harris has.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:26pm PT
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Biden/Harris is about their best shot. Harris has a lot of .gov experience at big blue state level. The last thing the (D)s need to do is throw even more people who fit a profile but have zero experience and soon become a laughingstock.
Better to groom them in cabinet jobs for starters.
Meanwhile what do the (D)s do now? More and more they are looking authoritarian trying to take over the .gov by any means then dictate policy. Better they accept Trump will be there less than two years and work on the best ticket. Some policy compromises would help them as well. They should accept they are not a lock.
Otherwise.. The good news is we have moved to the second row.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Mar 24, 2019 - 01:35pm PT
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Ok, wow, so a guy running for President did not consciously work with the Russians
however, the Russians tried their hardest to get Trump elected President
clearly they felt he could be manipulated to act in the Russian's best interests
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Mueller was charged with only investigating a Trump team/Russian collusion
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Next up to bat - obstruction of justice, campaign finance law, SD of New York
Donald better hope he wins reelection to avoid criminal charge indictments......
or he could have have Bubba and Leroy as cellmates
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Mar 24, 2019 - 02:09pm PT
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Don’t fret... They didn’t nab OJ the first time around ..
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2019 - 02:29pm PT
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So tRump is an unwitting Russian stooge. That is better, I guess...
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Treezypoof
Trad climber
Cyberia
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Mar 24, 2019 - 02:32pm PT
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I’m honestly glad that’s over.
Provable crimes of conspiracy and obstruction aside, it’s all plain as the new day as far as an inappropriate relationship with Russia regarding the potential Trump tower and the daily barrage of obstruction live on TV.
Now Trump has no distractions in trying to defend his shady and downright illegal business practices, campaign finance shenanigans, and charitable organization abuses.
Also glad Manafort, Stone, etc are being exposed and prosecuted.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Mar 24, 2019 - 02:48pm PT
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*Barr quotes the Special Counsel as saying “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 24, 2019 - 02:51pm PT
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I'd say this is pretty damn far from being 'over'.
The question of collusion is going to continue to be pushed- this is Barr's summary of Mueller's report, and there's no way Democrats are going to leave it at that.
The question of obstruction is still very much alive- Mueller didn't point out clear evidence, but he didn't exonerate Trump, either. More fodder for Dems to pursue.
And the Southern District of NY is going to have a LOT to do with the findings of this report- Trump's shady financial dealings are going to get a big fat spotlight put on them.
Mueller has done exactly what our justice system expects to be done- investigate issues that have ample reason to investigate, do it thoroughly and responsibly.
It's understandable to be tired of this whole process- it's been going on a long time- and those with political interests in this president, or ideologic alignment with his Party, would much prefer to see it over for good. But this is only the end of a major stage in the process....much more is to come.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 24, 2019 - 08:44pm PT
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Oh poo!
Two years of intensive investigation by Torquemada and all we have to show for it is the revelation that multi-millionaire real estate guys have shady business practices. Woo Hoo.
Been watching the news feeds all weekend with the Democrats and their Pundits wee-weeing down their legs that Trump gets to stay President.
So sad, Hillary really did lose after all.
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Treezypoof
Trad climber
Cyberia
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Mar 24, 2019 - 08:49pm PT
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“Been watching the news feeds all weekend....”
Sounds like you’ve arrived. What a gas.
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