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moosedrool
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Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 21, 2019 - 05:11pm PT
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Not sure why the Alexandria thread was frozen. Guessing, people couldn't have a civilized discussion.
But, AOC is well and keeps stirring the pot (or the toilet of our political system).
So, what's new, AOC?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/nyregion/aoc-billboard-amazon.html
"Probably the last thing that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez needs is a billboard to get her more attention or notoriety.
But there it was, on 42nd Street just west of Times Square, a digital attack ad that blamed the freshman Democratic congresswoman for Amazon’s decision to pull out of New York, taking with it 25,000 promised jobs.
“Thanks for Nothing, AOC!” the ad read, using Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s initials that became ubiquitous even before she officially set foot in Congress.
The ad was paid for by a Texas-based group called the Job Creators Network. In the past, tax records show that the Mercer Family Foundation has funded what appears to be a related group, the Job Creators Alliance, also based in Addison, Tex."
Is she really that powerful already? Wow!
Moose
PS. Please, keep the discussion civil. There is no need to get personal. Even it you think I'm stupid, pointing that to me won't change my brain.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 21, 2019 - 05:17pm PT
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The reason these threads get booted is because you really haven't said anything all.
All you're doing is repeating sound bites that have already been said and done.
Do you really know what's really going on?
NO, you only know what you are being told ......
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 21, 2019 - 05:29pm PT
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Tell us what we are being told,oh great one.
You are right,she says a lot of stupid stuff
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 21, 2019 - 06:41pm PT
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She's a socialist...Burn her at the stake...
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nah000
climber
now/here
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Feb 21, 2019 - 08:43pm PT
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since this appears to be the politard thread du hour and apparently i’m in a throwing down mood:
i’d like to take a moment to lay down why i am currently of the position that trump is the greatest u.s. president of the post nixon era and obama was the worst...
trump is the greatest because he says pretty much exactly who and what he is day in and day out: he is a liar, a demagogue, a con man, a believer in might makes right, a crony capitalist and a wannabe authoritarian.
when frenemies murder an american citizen in their embassy he doesn’t just turn a blind eye, he comes out with a statement that starts with “The world is a dangerous place!” and moves on to explain that “After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States. Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors. If we foolishly cancel these contracts, Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries - and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business. It would be a wonderful gift to them directly from the United States!”
no bull shIt there, just pure unadulterated selling of future wars...
hell, might as well make sure the saudis have nuclear arms as well...
obama on the other hand? he set the stage for trump with his rhetoric of “trust the people who are pulling the levers... we are good people and we know what we are doing” and “we need to let the sins of the past administration be bygones” and so sold and then completed the institionalization of a more kinglike approach to the roles and abilities of a u.s. president than had ever existed previously...
and so now it’s just one more president’s turn to continue to push that envelope just a little further.
and so my only real beef is with the majority of the american public who seem hellbent on regaining a king rather than the semi-democratic, messy and redundant set of institutional checks and balances that was originally intended...
and that’s regardless of whether that is being sold with nobel peace prizes and two faced rhetoric...
or the red hatted, fUck everyone but those with money/power sales pitch that is currently in place.
and so to keep this on topic: go AOC!
at least she is actually DOING something [aka voting] differently, rather than just talking differently and then falling along party lines when it comes time to vote...
time will tell, if that lasts or whether the machine will be able to consume her...
so far, so good.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Feb 21, 2019 - 08:46pm PT
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Well, here we go again. Sorry AOC. I admire your spunk.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Feb 21, 2019 - 08:46pm PT
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Maybe she could be attacked by Bernie supporters while she is eating a
Cubano sandwich she bought at a Bodega at 2 in the morning.
That'll get her ratings up!
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couchmaster
climber
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Feb 21, 2019 - 09:03pm PT
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Sorry Moose, but I'm holding out for "Alexandria, take III".
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Feb 21, 2019 - 10:07pm PT
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Burn her at the stake.
She's a vegetarian.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Feb 21, 2019 - 10:39pm PT
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“Not sure why the Alexandria thread was frozen. Guessing, people couldn't have a civilized discussion.”
This is a troll question, right?
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 22, 2019 - 07:10am PT
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I’m having a hard time getting excited about her brand, and Bernie’s brand, of pie in the sky ultra progressive bullshitting. Sorry, but promising the world without having a serious discussion of trade offs (e.g., the green new deal, Medicare for all), and what can be done here and now, is a set up for a massive backfire. We urgently need drastic, workable solutions to many serious problems, especially climate change, but the gnd, which wants to simultaneously somehow, some way (and it’s always somehow, some way) tackle income inequality, is far too overreaching. I’m seeing too many Dems succumb to this brand of progressivism as an antidote to trumpism’s snake oil, but it’s less of an antidote and more like another dose.
So there!
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 22, 2019 - 07:18am PT
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“If we were willing to give away $3 billion for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that money, if we wanted to,”
Smarter than tree full of owls.
Edit: ^ What dirt said. ^
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Feb 22, 2019 - 07:26am PT
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What dirt said.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Feb 22, 2019 - 07:34am PT
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I agree with dirtbag. We need prsctical solutions.
I'm kinda tired of Kamala, already.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 22, 2019 - 07:50am PT
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I’m with Dirtbag on this one.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 22, 2019 - 08:42am PT
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First it’s pie-in-the-sky and the next thing ya know it’s a guillotine at Jack London Square.
There’s nuthin new under the sun.
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