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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
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I don't know what the big deal about Benghazi is that anyone would need to be screwed with over it? The whole Muslim world was fired up and protesting in many countries at our embassies, and some terrorists used the occasion to jump in and kill some people in one country. Of course in the fog of all that, preliminary information turned out to be wrong. Big deal. Happens virtually everytime. Bush seemed to Indicate 9-11 was done by Iraq when it first happened.
Even if they tried to cover up some aspects of it, that happens everytime too in military and foreign stuff in janky countries.
This whole general thing..so bunk.
. to paraphrase Bill Maher on the Petraeus drama...
A Republican general has an affair with a Republican biographer who sends threatening emails to a Republican socialite who calls her Republican friend in the FBI who notifies Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor ....
Obama's fault.
Now I'm not saying there's not something wrong in all that, but that sort of wrong thing has been a regular part of our military and foreign policies for many, many years.. you only seem to care with the other party is in charge. Fine, if you want to reform the NDAA, and the stinking military industrial complex, I'm all for it. It's just not an Obama thing
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
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I would ask how many boy scout groups youve taught,
NOW we know!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
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Ron, NONE of that gives you a pass to tear down the US, to subjugate people as a slavemaster, nor any other anti-American BS that you advocate.
I couldn't care less how much of that Joseph McCarthy did.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
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hhhmmmm lemme see,,, im against violent radical islamists,, gang bangers and a law (NDAA 2103) which was first written long ago by hitlers staff.
And that makes me somehow unpatriotic? Because im against socialism's that will bankrupt us in no time makes me unpatriotic?
Yes, you pink slime, when you state that the Congress of the United States is Hitler's Staff, you are unpatriotic scum.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Nov 18, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
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limp wristed
This is devolving quickly....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 18, 2012 - 03:36pm PT
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"...indeed Bush pulled some heavy duty BS in engaging Iraq-and now Obama is doing the same. "
Just to entertain your kool-aid soaked mind for a minute...
You're drawing an equivalency between the Shrub/Neocon shenanigans that placed us squarely and purposely into a pointless war with the Obama Administration's supposed inadequate security efforts & cover-up attempts in Libya?
Those two are equivalent?
Really?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 18, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
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"The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said.."
Another weird equivalency.
And pretty slimy, at that.
You guys are pretty desperate these days.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 04:32pm PT
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The NDAA language is VERY MUCH the same as Nazi Germany. That is what i said..
YOUR language is VERY MUCH like that of the KKK, the Nazi's, the Stalinists, all of the fascists of history.
What does that tell us about you?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
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Now TELL ME what youve done for our country. You wanna call my patriotism out -fine. Im callin yours. GIVE ME YOUR LIST or your just another limp wristed malingerer...
You have this bizarre concept that, instead of doing things because you love your country, you are accumulating "get out free" cards that allow you to do anything TO your country.
You appear to be in the same category of Aldrich Ames and other traitors, who thought that their life of public service allowed them to be traitors, and it is just fine.
I couldn't care less about your list of accomplishment, while you trash your country. Stand by your words, don't hide behind your history.
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OR
Trad climber
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Nov 18, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
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YOUR language is VERY MUCH like that of the KKK, the Nazi's, the Stalinists, all of the fascists of history.
What does that tell us about you?
Really? I may not agree with Ron all the time but that statement is absurd. TOTAL FAIL.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 18, 2012 - 06:55pm PT
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Republicans - the party of hysteria and drama.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2012 - 08:36pm PT
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edit: as for the NDAA ,, indeed it isnt just a dem or repub thing,,it IS a downright COMMUNISTIC thing.
Big difference between Communism and Fascism,
We've got the basis for Fascism in place but more subtle.
Sorta like Imperialism. Countries used to have to invade a country and dominate them in order to have an empire. now we do it with trade policies, the world bank, IMF, and other tricks. We make them keep their own slaves to us so we don't have to.
Same with Fascism (Tyrannic government and Corporations in cahoots) The Elite money and power rule us but keep us from even realizing that they've bought the system and the laws being passed are ready to use against us if we wake up and try to change things
PEace
karl
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 19, 2012 - 12:42am PT
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OR, Ron likes to make sweeping generalizations, drawing similarities to things that are in no way related, like the Congress and Nazis. This is his approach, and I just get tired of it.
I thought he'd see how he liked the technique applied to him. Apparently, he feels that his diminishes his worth and contributions. Of course, that would not apply to anything or anyone that HE attacked in the same way.
Perhaps he might open his eyes.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Nov 20, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
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How exactly can the government pay for all of the stuff that people want without raising their taxes? By borrowing of course.
What's worse, tax-and-spend liberals or borrow-and-spend conservatives?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 20, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
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The average Republican has no idea how to work with others.
Once the poster child for the GOP, NJ governor Christie is now on the GOP sh#t list for working with Obama when his state became a disaster zone.
When will they learn that the world is made up of people, and many are not white men.
Ron, why do Republicans hate women??
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Nov 20, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
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THANKS RON FOR SPREADING SOME TRUTH!!!!!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 20, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
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OK Ron, Why do you hate to help those in need?
Here's the bolded text from your post:
1.4. The developmental and environmental objectives of Agenda 21 will require a substantial flow of new and additional financial resources to developing countries, in order to cover the incremental costs for the actions they have to undertake to deal with global environmental problems and to accelerate sustainable development.
And if all the Republicans you know love women, they why are they still Republicans when the GOP hates women??
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 20, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
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If you keep reading the mindless, inflammatory swill from the John Birch Society, Grover Norquist's blog, and the clueless crew at American 'Thinker' you are just going to remain an open sore pumped full of so many lies and distortions you'll end up rabidly machine-gun posting complete bullshit on a rock climbing blog. Oops, too late.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 20, 2012 - 05:19pm PT
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Ron, that's because it's all mindless bullsh#t.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 20, 2012 - 06:00pm PT
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Again, 95% of it is all mindless bullsh#t, and when you wrap 5% of legitimate concerns in an enormous clusterf*#k of raging bullshit you just end up like DT and your valid points don't end up getting due consideration.
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