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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 12:39pm PT
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non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences of The male progenitor.
I was told that sequences in the nuDNA timelines matches the fossil record for homo erectus. So it's very probable that is the progenitor.
2.25 million years old lineage involved on the male side of things.
It's confusing, but we will know the details soon.
The smarter skeptics are keeping their mouths shut till then.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 25, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
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It's 2:30 Monday morning here so I'll be brief. However, let me state for the record that I don't think that Sasquatch as an unknown primate exists. I do find it intriguing that someone may have left hair samples in the woods that show a percentage of non Homo sapiens DNA in a local population which I presume is Native American. That's what I meant by analogous to sapiens and neanderthal in Europe.
I find it intriguing that other primates and/or Homo erectus and some of its sucessors may have made it to North America.As for the cultural questions, I think many of the ape men tales could be holdovers from the time when sapiens were in conflict with the other successors to H. erectus. Or in Asia they may be tales based on conflicts between sapiens and remnants of a large ape called Gigantipithecus.
Those battles are easily conflated into anything else that's unknown. I lived for a year in Rolwaling Valley in Nepal which is famous for sightings of yeti. My own opinion is that they were encounters with bears for the most part, usually in heavy snowstorms with poor visibility and scared to death people running away. Easy to have selective memory in those cases. Something capable of climbing on the roof of a house did kill a friend's ox and drag it for a quarter of a mile, eat it's liver and leave the rest. Enough to frighten anyone.
If there is a yeti as an undiscovered species of primate in the Himalaya, it lives in the rain forests of Bhutan and Assam in India, not at high altitude. Bonobos were only discovered 30-40 years ago so it's possible that an unknown species of ape still lives in the rain forests of the eastern Himalaya.
Sorry if my anthropological musings confused people regarding the popular mythology of Sasquatch.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Nov 25, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
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Encountering LittleFoot is much scarier. Especially attached to an offspring.
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 02:58pm PT
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The problem which arises with the shooters is after the kill they get up close and see that the face is totally human. Reluctance to be completely forthcoming regarding the event conflicts with what to do next and what they should have done in the first place.
I'm certain many shootings are never talked about because in fact a murder has taken place, as the DNA Report would confirm.
Smeja was stupid enough to start yapping about it, and his problems are not over yet.
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
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Good for you Ron, but this is not an argument about beliefs anymore.
Thanks for stepping up to the plate, but you've struck out, it's time for our Next contestant please....
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 25, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
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This should quiet the skeptics:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Sha-POOP-ee! Take THAT to the bank!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 25, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
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Good for you Ron, but this is not an argument about beliefs anymore. True, it's just going to be more fantasy with a helping of pseudo-science fraud.
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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Ron Anderson
Nov 25, 2012 - 01:55pm PT
has anyone had their post edited mysteriously? jus wonderin..
testing,,i,,2,,3 testing..
Computers are easy to manipulate, but be careful what you wish for, or who you mock.
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 06:44pm PT
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In 2006 I saw two huge ones at night, nearly 12 feet tall, it wasn't a clear sighting but I could see their eyes glowing red, watched them for about 30 minutes, I was terrified. In 1996 I also had what I believe was another encounter climbing at Skaha. In 2007 I had a number of night time encounters, which have persisted every time I return to the Sechelt Pennisula. I have also found tracks near Pemberton at Lillooet lake.
Seen many tracks in the past three years in Golden Ears Park beginning in 2009 and also had a number of rocks mystersiously thrown at me there as well, and not by people. In 2011 while camping in Golden Ears something cleared off the picnic table in the middle of the night and stunk up the campsite while some sort of beam of light shone out of the forest into my truck where I was cowering in fear.
Sadly No clear daylight sightings for me. I have seen lots of tracks in a lot of different places. Lots of strange lights in the forest and cloudy skies while out camping. In summary many strange experiences since 2006.
As far as your laptop goes, I have also had text mysteriously erase and disappear several times when I was about to say something on the topics of ET or bigfoot.
I have no idea what the connections are, but I have been feeding them treats (pancakes, steaks, sacks of potatoes, large bags of dog food) and trying to get video for years, so like I said you get what you ask for .... and in my case it's just a lot of games and entertainment on their part
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
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The fear is over whelming and is not something that I feel I am generating myself completely, frozen sometimes in place, and the camera is almost always pointed the wrong way when they show up. Got nothing worth sharing except moving shadows and weird lights on nv gen III vid clips.
I didn't get certified for firearms till October of this year but have not applied for a license yet. If they were going to do me in it would have happened years ago. I do want some bear protection though.
My last experience was in November of 2011 ... I had a witness with me but it wasn't what you could call a bigfoot per say.
No one is anywhere near the places I am at night and it's doubtfull anyone is hoaxing flying balls of light, and shaking the ground with thunderous footsteps on an innocent little bigfoot hunter like me.
Always fun bringing someone along for these adventures though as I often do. I am happy just finding tracks, I don't really desire a face to face meeting anymore at this point.
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
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It's called murder and I want no part of it and neither do you Ron. Besides the new videos and proof are already in the can and will be released after the DNA study has been printed in the Journal. The costs by some to get it to that point are over 3 million bucks so far. It's called getting poor not rich. No doubt the investment will yield a return in the end though.
It's done, be patient, you'll see, everyone will know soon ...
Meanwhile my curiosity remains regarding who the progenitors are because what we are calling Sasquatch is only one third of the story.
Edit #1:
momentum indepently building in the genetics blogosphere
dna-explained.com is a blogging channel for DNAeXplain, a DNA genetics consulting company that offers individual written analysis of DNA results. While we have had opinions from Ketchum proponents and Ketchum detractors, Bigfooters and non-bigfooters. We haven't had an independent DNA expert react to the Melba Ketchum Bigfoot DNA press release.
http://dna-explained.com/2012/11/25/bigfoot-is-real/
Indeed, I look forward to seeing this published paper and I hope it is legitimate and not pseudo-science of some sort. The mere fact that the scientiests have opted for academic publication versus a book or TV documentary certainly alludes to the fact that it is legitimate research.
Edit #2:
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/press-releases/article/Bigfoot-DNA-Sequenced-In-Upcoming-Genetics-Study-4063604.php
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 25, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
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I can see it now...A stuffed bigfoot in the Moundhouse, Nevada sasquatch museum...
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Nov 25, 2012 - 09:57pm PT
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I hear Squatches are pretty gud at pulling sleds.....
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Nov 25, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
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Still waiting, for now it's finding bigfoot on animal planet
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bmacd
Trad climber
100% Canadian
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Nov 25, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
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Squatches make Pretty Dam good UFO pilots too. I'd fly co-pilot any day with one in the captains chair.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 26, 2012 - 01:39am PT
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A Squatch worked for me in Albuquerque once. He had come down from Colorado.
He was a real good worker. I never got a good picture of him, either.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2012 - 12:30am PT
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I may have had one, but it could have been a bear. More likely....
I posted it a while back on this thread. To me it was creepy. Scared this f*#k out of my dog. Made weird barking-type noises, with heavy breathe.
Edison Lake area. Camped on the far shore.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:22am PT
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The latest reports are now speculating that the unknown primate was gigantipithecus which wandered into the new world before Homo sapiens?
That's because it would have to have crossed before Homo sapiens because otherwise they'd have had to have competed with us if it was concurrent. But for like the hundredth time, the inviolate concept of 'minimum viable population' makes non-existent even the remotest possibility of their existence. Ditto for Nessie.
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