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graniteclimber
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The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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I see, so you can't summarize what you know in the most basic way
I summarized before you even asked this in my 10:38 post yesterday.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Philo, don't dig your hole any deeper. If you don't think that is the remains
of a 757 engine then you've been over at Locker's huffing more than your
fair share of his glue. But I suppose those charred and mangled engine
parts could have been planted.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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You think that is an airplane engine? You believe that?
Really?
Don't be a klueless sheeple.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Why would anyone suggest that?
It's important to keep our eye on the hamsters.
Hamsters are also responsible for rigging the Tour de France. That was an inside job. Armstrong is just the scapegoat.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Well I don't think it is a part of a 757 engine and Lockers Glue supply is safe from me. I do think it was a jet engine that was planted there by the guided plane that was flown into the Pentagon.
How do you truth deniers rationally explain that a hijacker who couldn't even adequately pilot a Cessnna was able to make a high speed 270 degree diving and banking turn and still level it out and not touch the grass. Can you present ONE professional pilot who would publicaly claim to be capable of that remarkable maneuver of aeronautic acrobatics.
And we will continue to see the deniers continue to attempt to diminish the significance of inquiry by the mature use of rodent analogies.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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How do you truth deniers rationally explain that a hijacker who couldn't even adequately pilot a Cessnna was able to make a high speed 270 degree diving and banking turn and still level it out and not touch the grass. Can you present ONE professional pilot who would publicaly claim to be capable of that remarkable maneuver of aeronautic acrobatics.
You see that, Mighty Hiker, you are a "truth denier".
Because I say that hamsters did it, I'm a "truth speaker."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Philo, I have a Commercial Pilot's license and I'm here to tell you that
once a large jet is off the ground it is arguably easier to fly than a
Cessna. You don't even need to touch the pedals. They are designed to be
incredibly stable. Landing one is a whole 'nother thing but those sickos
didn't sign on for that. Your use of the phrase "high speed 270 degree
diving and banking turn" just shows that you don't know what you're talking
about. Any turn necessarily involves banking - no big deal. High speed is relative.
It would have been a high speed turn for a Ford Pinto but not a B-757.
Lastly, it was most definitely not a "diving turn". It was not that
much more radical than many a 'circle-to-land' approach or other common
approaches to many airports around the world. The standard approach to
Hong Kong's old Kai Tak Airport was a much more radical maneuver performed
dozens of times daily by 747's. Admittedly those were not flown by sickos,
for the most part*. Oh, and by the way, ever see the Pentagon in person?
Yeah, Helen Keller could hit that puppy. How the phuk could you miss it?
*If you go to YouTube and watch the myriad examples of landing at Kai Tak
then you will see why I qualified my statement.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Sorry Anders but that response is a dis-service to the question.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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How the phuk could you miss it?
just check out most of philo's posts and it will become apparent how he can miss certain things....
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Flight instructor:
Those stupid hamsters can't fly. They don't even care about learning how to do a proper take-offs and landings. I told them they need to learn that learn that. They say that they can get a job that doesn't require that!
When flying the simulator, they like to crash their planes into buildings and laugh about it. They say they don't need to land!
Philo misses the point. The hamsters didn't fly the planes. Nobody did. The hamsters wired the WTC towers, WTC building 7 and the Pentagon for demo.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Only the pilots of Pilots for Truth could not make that easy turn. It's like driving a Cadillac around a steep freeway offramp then going for another 30 seconds straight to your target.
After only 20 hours of instruction, I was doing figure 8's using a barn as the central point in a squirrely Cessna 150.
The fact that he had to make that turn shows he was not experienced, as a more experienced pilot would have not have left himself so high and would be able to go straight in.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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gc,
i am not an expert....but that is no B757!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Only the pilots of Pilots for Truth could not make that easy turn. It's like driving a Cadillac around a steep freeway offramp.
After only 20 hours of instruction, I was doing figure 8's using a barn as the central point in a squirrely Cessna 150.. Well then you were clearly a better pilot than the AyRab. Do you really want to sound this stupid?
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Dude, he had a commercial pilot's license. I'm sure he could do such a simple turn.
Is he going to be able to shoot an instrument approach at night to a few degrees. Definitely not, but not required for this mission.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Dude he was talking about a Cessna. Did he fly Jumbo Jets? And dude you have rock shoes I am sure you can solo 5.12. SIMPLETONS.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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"There are no witnesses (that I know about) that saw a missile heading towards pentagon."
Who said "missile"?
Raymond, if you care to look, you will find many eye witnesses whose testimony you choose to ignore.
For example:
Danner, a civilian pilot and electrical engineer from Hagerstown, Maryland, has recently come forward and told American Free Press that he saw an aircraft that resembled a Global Hawk making a tight turn at high speed before leveling off near ground level and smashing into the Pentagon.
The Global Hawk is a jet-powered unmanned aerial vehicle that is used by the U.S. military but was still being tested in 2001.
"It was not a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon," civilian pilot Danner told AFP, "No way."
Yet, the mainstream media has completely ignored eyewitness accounts like Danner's while it has actively promoted the official, but unproven, version that a hijacked Boeing 757 smashed into the Pentagon.
Here's a link that has more complete information, in case you care to have something to discredit:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=90745
There are many, many more.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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He had 757 simulator training.
Look for that vid of the low hours private pilot who hit the pentagon 3 for 3 on a real 757 simulator doing the same maneuver.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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He had 757 simulator training.
Look for that vid of the low hours private pilot who hit the pentagon 3 for 3 on a real 757 simulator.
Yeah and my youngest kid can successfully fly, dogfight and land a MIG on a gaming simulator. And he can rack up a prodigious amount of kills on HALO. I bet even you could summit Everest on a climbing simulation.
Not the same as real life. Take a moment and look at the telemetry of that flight before yoou so arrogantly say you could do it.
Guess what size engine a Global Hawk has?
If it looks like a plane and acts like a plane it must be a 757.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Yes, lets confuse the smaller parts in a 757 engine with the larger parts in a Global Hawk engine. That'll get us our investigation.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Philo, a few hours on Microsoft Flight Simulator would probably suffice
for hitting the Pentagon after the plane was established straight and
level. A phukking blind hamster could do it. It ain't rocket science!
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