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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:04am PT
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Survival, where does hatred of Mexicans come from?
I just watched Bandolero!
Those darn Mexican bandidos tried raping Raquel Welch, knifed Dean Martin and shot Jimmy Stewart.
Bogie found out...
"Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and chinga tu madre!"
Grrr, just as bad as American Gangstas.
Or Nazis, or WW2 Japanese soldiers, the KKK or those goddamn Fenian bastards.
In fact, anybody like me from the Bay Area. Grrr, we are gurriers. Trash, lefties, spawn of Satan, you name it... and it doesn't matter if it East Bay like me, the City, North Bay, South Bay, we are all doomed to hell. (Um, not all, Bluering and a couple of other Supertopians will go to heaven after The Rapture). I wonder if they have toilets in Hell? A bar? McDonalds? A Starbucks?
Heck, give me LIMBO, I'll even take Purgatory.
(I am trying to rack up as many posts on this thread as Ron, so he doesn't feel lonely.)
EDIT
we are all doomed to hell
Or climbing at Mt Diablo or falling and being shredded like cheese at Pinnacles NM.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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Ron, not another mystery. There are too many mysteries in life. ;-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:21am PT
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Yeah, I noticed the bald heads and the gang signs.
I also notice how much you bring up Mexicans, as opposed to all other hate groups you mention.
Mexicans, illegal or otherwise are not worse than white racists or muslim extremists.
Ignorance and hatred know no color or national boundaries. That's what we should be fighting.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:03am PT
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Ill bet you didnt know Denver has a Columbus day parade every year
Yes that is true in fact Colorado became the first state to observe an official Columbus Day in 1905.
that several other hate groups try to break up, year after year.
But this isn't true. As a proud Choctaw Ron should know that most Native Americans are not fond of Columbus Day in the least. There have been concerted efforts by a coalition of groups to curtail the annual parade but traditions die hard. There are protest parades as counterpoint but Denver does a good job of keeping the peace.
You WONT see that on ANY TV channel.
You won't because these are not "Hate Groups" and the Parades quite appropriately coexist.
By the way look up Colorado's history regarding two things.
1; look up the connection between Colorado and the KKK and in particular the involvement of Denver Police.
2; fast forward a generation or two and look into Denver's role in Martin Luther King Day and Parade.
And then let me tell you of the annual counter protests. Now those fux ARE hate groups.
Thank God that people can learn, grow and progress.
Your turn Ron.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:44am PT
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Ron, your mystery is my misery... or is the other way around?
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Ronnie, over 14,000 posts since 2009, wow, not a Supertopo record, but...
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 12, 2012 - 12:10pm PT
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TGT, regarding your 1800s drawings, you do realize that both the Democrat and Republican parties were far different then than as today. Nice try at parody though, but, it doesn't seem your forte.
(Am I getting closer to the number of Ron posts on this thread?)
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Eddie
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Nov 12, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
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Whichever side you voted for, please vote for real reasons!
this video is very enlightening...(it happens to be about Romney fans..but that is not the point)
Highlight: 4:05 - 4:44
[youtube=nY0M7IdNl7U#!]
link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nY0M7IdNl7U#!
If I got spontaneously interviewed, I would look pretty silly, so I let a lot of these people off the hook. However...the rest of the people in this video made me laugh out loud, multiple times...and then start crying at the thought that this is real.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 13, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
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Ron, firstly, it is not that difficult to count somebody's posts, and secondly I am just jousting with you. I thought you had thicker skin than that... and you probably do.
Am I strange?
People are strange when you're a stranger
Faces look ugly when you're alone
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted
Streets are uneven when you're down
When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
Courtesy of Jim Morrison and The Doors.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 13, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
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Well dooood, if YOU had mexican gang members tapping caps in your drive way- you would suddenly become quite concerned. If you have HS helis over head on a DAILY basis, your concern would again grow.
Ron, I've got no major rub with you personally. I like you in fact. But if you've got Mexican cartel caps getting tapped in your driveway and you've got Homeland Security over your house every day, it sounds like you need a new place to live.
But I must emphasize brother, that there is no La Raza conspiracy to take over the western USA. However, you do understand that they stole it from the natives before we stole it from them, right?
Re: the video posted above: The lady that says Obama's father was a Muslim and an atheist and a communist, all at the same time, is priceless!!
The dude at 7:30 that says Buddhists are trying to tell us what to do is ALSO PRICELESS!!!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 13, 2012 - 08:57pm PT
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...if YOU had mexican gang members tapping caps in your drive way...
That's why I moved somewhere else. The only worries I have now are keeping the deer from eating my flowers.
I can't tell you how nice it is to have that worry, and only that worry.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 14, 2012 - 11:53am PT
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14,237 posts (as of a few minutes ago) in the relatively short time you've been here, Ron.
You are as prolific as fattrad or Lois. Some people find that a bit weird.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
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Meanwhile,, over a hundred missles have hit in Israel and they are returning fire back to hammas and Syria.
Ron, not true. The majority of those missiles were intercepted by Iron Dome.
And what does this have to do with the average Democrat? This has been going on through administration after administration, repub and democrat.
You do know that the first peace treaties between Israel and Egypt were signed because of a Democrat, right?
SDEROT, Israel — Military sources have confirmed to GlobalPost that Israeli Defense Forces targeted and killed Ahmed Jabri, the head of Hamas’ military wing, in the Gaza Strip.
“Jabri was a senior Hamas operative who served in the upper echelon of Hamas’ command and was directly responsible for executing terror attacks against the State of Israel in the past number of years,” military sources said.
The killing of Jabri came a day after Hamas launched a barrage of more than 100 missiles into southern Israel, most of which were intercepted by the country’s Iron dome missile protection system. The attack also comes just two months before the scheduled national elections in Israel.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:04pm PT
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14,238
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:07pm PT
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Survival,, the govt HQ was attacked a few days ago in Libya by the militia. The militias now control libya.
Actually, the question was what Hamas launching missiles had to do with the average democrat.......
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
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So the Libya mess means that it's Obama's fault that Hamas hates Israel?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
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Dismal facts, like 332 to 206.........
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:23pm PT
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"...an example of a non thinking democrat."
Not true. I just try to engage thoughtfully with those who are capable of having thoughtful dialogue, and actually learn something.
Unfortunately, there isn't much opportunity to do that in these polititard threads, so most of the time it's just useless ranting bantering. It's entertaining for a while...then it gets boring.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 14, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
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Not true. I just try to engage thoughtfully with those who are capable of having thoughtful dialogue, and actually learn something.
Unfortunately, there isn't much opportunity to do that in these polititard threads, so most of the time it's just useless ranting bantering. It's entertaining for a while...then it gets boring.
I think this is largely a wound we've inflicted on each other. Last week there was a thread that had one thoughtful post after another, until certain posters started lobbing insults, and the targets responded in kind. Eventually, an allegation of LEB participation vaporized it. Heaven forbid that we permit any LEB-like participation! Not only did the thread disappear from the board, every post did, too.
It isn't easy to ignore insults or opportunities for cheap shots, but we're unlikely to get a meaningful discussion unless we show some self-restraint.
I'm sorry I haven't been inclined to enter the fray much in the past few weeks, Ron. I feel like I've abandoned you in the midst of battle, but when the overwhelming majority of the posters seem intent on bashing the non-Democrats without regard to any principles of dialogue, much less good advocacy, I don't see the point.
John
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 14, 2012 - 01:12pm PT
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And this is the typical Repug:
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — When news vans camped outside her stately home, a Florida socialite tied to the Gen. David Petraeus sex scandal fell back on her informal credentials as a social ambassador for Tampa society and top military brass: She asked police for diplomatic protection.
In the phone call to authorities, Jill Kelley, a party hostess and unofficial social liaison for leaders of the U.S. military's Central Command in Tampa, cited her status as an honorary consul general while complaining about news vans that had descended on her two-story brick home overlooking Tampa Bay.
"You know, I don't know if by any chance, because I'm an honorary consul general, so I have inviolability, so they should not be able to cross my property. I don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well," she told the 911 dispatcher Monday.
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