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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 16, 2011 - 10:23pm PT
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Reach
Throw
Row
Go,......... maybe
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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Aug 16, 2011 - 10:25pm PT
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this long steep smooth chute in the stream up above happy isles Illilouette Creek? Sounded like you were describing the Silver Apron/ Emerald Pool above Vernal.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 16, 2011 - 11:10pm PT
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How hard would it be to install a gill net...? Wouldn't this keep the turkeys from trying to spawn...?
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skywalker
climber
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Aug 17, 2011 - 12:19am PT
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Ron,
From a boater's perspective, right on. You're soloing in a way in any whitewater. But tragic.
S...
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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saw that the other day............pass!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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so why don't we pay a big black dude to hang out at vernal?
seems logical to me?
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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It seems that a primal survival instinct in people - the ability to recognize and avoid mortal danger - is slowly slipping away. Case in point;
One morning in October of 2003 I walked out the door to go to work, and saw a shocking sight in the sky immediately to the east. A massive wall of thick black smoke was furiously roiling upward, blotting out the eastern sky. The lower several hundred feet of the black mass was a throbbing bright orange, both reflecting the flames of an enormous firestorm and indicating that the temp of the smoke itself was in excess of 1200 degrees. I ran back inside and told my wife to grab some clothes and our important papers and get to her sister's house at the beach NOW.
As I rode to work on my motorcycle I looked back every chance I got, horrified that armageddon was cresting the hill and bearing down on the city of poway. This was an immediate and terrifying threat that had my fight or flight mechanism on full alert, yet all around me people were jogging, walking their dogs etc as if nothing was out of the ordinary.
When I got to work I found the only possible explanation for the general ambivalence of the people I had seen - the tv and radio was falsely reporting that poway was not endangered at present, this despite the fact that no live reporters were anywhere near poway (proving again that bad information is worse than no information) at that time.
People preferred to believe what the talking heads said over what they could see with their own eyes. Unbelievable.
I let my people go early when flaming debris started falling from the sky and poway was being evacuated. That was the onset of the 03 firestorm that killed 18 people and hundreds of animals, and destroyed almost 4000 homes.
We, as a people, are losing the ability to judge and avoid obvious danger.
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WBraun
climber
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And once the danger starts to become aware they panic ......
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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ouch
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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^^^^^
Is that a black crash pad down there?
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WBraun
climber
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The Japanese have rebuilt the same tsunami-destroyed towns over and over.
Tsunami and earthquakes are part of their "life" since way before American know it alls.
They accept their fates unlike Americans who need to sue everyone on the planet and take no responsibility.
Different culture, different values on life, then Americans who "think" they can control everything.
Also land is also at a premium.
Jan will probably have a much better analysis then me :-)
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Did they ever find those bodies - what's left of them?
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WBraun
climber
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Yes, all three have been recovered.
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Grampa
Trad climber
OC in So Cal
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Fire or 6 years back, there was a dead doe in the pond below Vernal. I wonder if it was getting a drink in the creek, slipped and went over the edge?
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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This was the day 2 of the 3 were extracted I believe.
Later on that day..
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