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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Jul 19, 2011 - 10:01pm PT
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My sympathy to those kids, watching their parents disappear, from the only world they knew. Crazy.
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Jul 19, 2011 - 10:35pm PT
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Ridiculous. Same sh#t, different year. The signs at the pool at the top, as I recall, are not subtle and are in multiple languages clearly stating that if you enter the water, you will likely die.
A few weeks back I was at Mist Falls a few miles hike in from Road's End in in Kings Canyon and watched multiple tourists walk past the warning sign onto the slippery mossy rocks to get closer to the falls. I thought I was going to see the same outcome. Why tempt fate?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Jul 19, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
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Maybe they ought to tie a ring buoy to the railing. Like on ships. But people would probably try to surf with it. They just don't realize how slippery polished granite is when it is wet. Very sorry for their loss.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 19, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
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It's just sad...
Keep your snarky remarks somewhat sensitive here. People died on vacation trying to have some fun.
F*#king sad.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 19, 2011 - 11:48pm PT
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Maybe so, Ron. But it still sucks. I feel for them. (And I know you do too)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 19, 2011 - 11:50pm PT
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The first time I was there, there must have been a sign indicating the volume of water going over Vernal Falls exceeds that of Niagra Falls.
I stayed the hell away.
There must have been a sign there then, because I doubt I would have researched that stat on my own.
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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Jul 19, 2011 - 11:55pm PT
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I call bullshit on Chaz's Niagra volume comparison... no f'n way is it even close.
EDIT (I'm a bigger geek than Chaz and brief research yields):
Merced Volume at peak spring runoff around 780,000 cfm
Niagra Volume is about 6 million cfm
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Jul 19, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
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I once witnessed two young boys go over Vernal, so this horrible tragedy brings back a very, very sad memory. Despite all the warnings possible, all of us can be careless at times, unknowingly. My condolences to this family and their friends.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Jul 20, 2011 - 12:09am PT
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So sorry you witnessed such a tragedy TMJesse.
I'm sure it's something that stays with you a very long time.
Condolences to friends and loved ones of the deceased.
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micronut
Trad climber
fresno, ca
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Jul 20, 2011 - 12:55am PT
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This is really sad. In my opinion some of the comments above are pretty shameful. Pretty lame. When a climber dies....even doing something sketchy...Dan Osman on the static jump....Todd with the old harness...Bachar soloing....friends under avalanches and cornices, we mourn and say noble things. When a stranger, a tourist, dies you say its "thinning out the herd" or "the darwin affect." Let alone use the word stupid. Man, how narrow and myopic and tasteless. I would never say Johnny and Micah were stupid for being in avalanche terrain, though it was a choice. You gotta think those folks knew it was sketchy down near that waters edge, but assumed in their own way, albeit naively or other,they had it under control. Like all of us who epic sometimes in the alpine game. And now their kids are without mom and dad. I hope none of the involved families ever read this thread. If they do, I offer my sincere condolences and an apology for my climbing colleagues on this site.
Scott
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:06am PT
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What to say in such a situation? My heart goes out to those who survive
the missing. . .
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:07am PT
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hey there say, all.... saw this, just a bit agao, and it was so sad, i went to warm others, on the facebook, as folks there, that i know, have kids and travel...
my condolences to the family...
very sad....
yosemite, had always been happy for our family, it is sad when it turns out not so, for someone else... :(
night, all...
god bless you and your loved ones,
on ANY vacaction or daily greatoutdoors...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:09am PT
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God I hate to see this...but bad decisions lead to bad things. Thinking about the kids breaks my heart
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:15am PT
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The NPS should forget the ranger post at the cables on half dome and instead station supervision at the top of Vernal, for christ's sake.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:17am PT
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Yep Peter, would seem to serve the masses a better service at certain times of the year.
Peace
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:30am PT
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I know, it's so sad, just imagining those poor kids watching their parents and uncle (?) get swept away.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 20, 2011 - 01:54am PT
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Why don't people respect the signs?
'Cause nobody believes anything the government says, even when it is true.
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