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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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LOfukinL
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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FaiNT of BrainS!
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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RURPS-
That is the best post in this whole thread!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!
Bump to the top of the list!
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Ricard Jensen and Mark Smith, good for you!!! They spent 30+ days on Wings of Steel, coping with Valley locals throwing sh#t bags at them from the Aquarian Wall and cutting their ropes. And without a repeat! Time for Steve Grossman to repeat the route or let the thread and the animosity go.
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socalbolter
Sport climber
Silverado, CA
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And rurprider sums it up nicely...
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Nov 10, 2010 - 01:04am PT
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gosh these threads just never die, do they?
it's alomst like politics, there is no right and no wrong, just opposing perspectives.
either government is there to protect us from those who would rather make one more buck than do "the right thing", or the free market will choose "the right thing" and the government is just an obstacle to those who want to make a buck.
in the same light, either WoS is too hard and scary for anyone to ever repeat, and everyone who ever criticized the FA party was and is a petty, jealous, devil worshiper, or the line was a contrived hook, chip, and drill job up an indistinct and unappealing line that nobody can ever follow unless they happen to have a month to burn and a boner for hooking an indistinct and unappealing slab line.
in a world where nobody even cares if we lied our way into a war with Iraq-
in a world where nobody even cares if global warming is a man made phenomenon-
in a world where people (apparently) watch reality show starring bret michaels after reality show starring bret michaels, who really cares about this 30 yr old controversy over a route that either has never seen a party qualified to achieve a repeat ascent, or has simply never motivated a party to complete an ascent?
for me, at this point, it's like arguing over the ingredients in a brand of cookies that is no longer available in stores. who really cares? there is just too much out there to be interested in.
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Nov 10, 2010 - 01:25am PT
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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Nov 10, 2010 - 07:30am PT
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Hey MisterE,
That kid's got the wrong finger in the air if he's gonna hang out on this thread.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Nov 10, 2010 - 11:44am PT
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Matt, wtf are you on about? The route has essentially been repeated at least twice. Now they weren't "proper" ascents as the teams didn't finish or top out or whatever, so nobody can credibly claim a true 2nd, but the hard pitches have been repeated multiple times.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Nov 10, 2010 - 11:42pm PT
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hmm i didn't even know that- details?
sorry for being outta the loop.
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Nov 11, 2010 - 12:14am PT
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That was some funny stuff, RURPS
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dogtown
Trad climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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Nov 11, 2010 - 01:20am PT
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Still beating that old horse, I see. Well for all of you that don’t know Mark & Richard which I have for over thirty years. They are both two of the boldest aid Climbers of our time. PERIOD. Like the rest of us, sometimes one f*#ks up and tells the truth about things we did. Which in my opinion is better lying about things we didn’t do.
Dogtown.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:31am PT
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Yikes, I missed this on the first go around.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Dec 18, 2014 - 10:34am PT
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Me too! The best to all! Happy Holidaze!
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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Dec 18, 2014 - 02:47pm PT
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This thread is from 3 years before the second ascent and 5 years before the film.
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