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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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There you go again, drawing down the discourse, you dipsh#t. Take a break, go take a science course first time in your life. Personally I've had enough of your science-bashing at every turn, loser. You really don't know how much damage your ilk causes culture.
And people don't call you out more often because they don't want to get down in the pigsty with you. You should be ashamed of yourself for badmouthing science and its efforts so in the way you do.
I only wish we could transport you back to the dark ages for a week or so - for some serious enlightenment.
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WBraun
climber
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Bye bye fruity .....
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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If I got bent out of shape every time someone called me Matt or Pete instead of Pat - which is every time....
What would Jesas do?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Evangelical Christian Texas Gov Rick Perry
Perry grew up in the United Methodist Church, and he and his family have been members of Tarrytown United Methodist Church since the 1990s (the same church that former President George W. Bush attended in Austin, Texas) until 2010 when Perry and his family began attending the large, nondenominational evangelical megachurch, Lake Hills Church that is also located in Austin. In 2006, Perry stated that he believes in the inerrancy of the Bible and that those who do not accept Jesus as their savior will go to hell. Perry has called himself "a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect", and has expressed support for its teaching alongside evolution in Texas schools
Perry supports the death penalty.[96] In June 2002, he vetoed a ban on the execution of mentally retarded inmates.[93] As of April 27, 2014, Gov. Perry has presided over 275 executions[97]-more than any governor in U.S. History.[98] That's a good evangelical Christian for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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I would love to get an answer - even one, from a Christian on the gay marriage thing.
Look at all the lonely people.
All 420 million of them.
Shitdog, that's a quarter of the world's Christian population.
Wonder if 1 in 4 Christians would forgo marriage for the cause?
Wonder why my mind works like a fkn spreadsheet?
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WBraun
climber
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LOL ....
Yer killing me :-)
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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HFCS,
The KKK hides behind Christian religion. Many whack jobs do behind many religions. A man of science like yourself would know this if you were paying attention.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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The KKK hides behind Christian religion.
This makes my point exactly. Beliefs matter. The guy who tried to shoot up Jews a few weeks back (killing Christians instead) was driven by his Aryan beliefs of superiority. Because they were not deemed "religious" he was called for it. So too was Sterling over his racist beliefs.
Beliefs are holdings. For better or worse. It's time we stopped giving religious ones a free pass. Esp where they are counterfactual regarding how the world works or how life works or impinge on basic rights to life in the modern age (e.g., death to apostates).
The beliefs of the Abrahamic religions are not immaterial to everyday life like half of folks think or pretend. It's time we all got real about this so we can better deal - w greater unity - with the really big problems coming our way down the line.
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the religion of tech/science
This is just more religious rhetoric from the Christian religious moral majority. Zero content. Zero meaning. A last ditch effort to propagate confusion while trying to preserve some dying authority / fantasy narrative. Informed folks see through it however.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Of course beliefs matter. For every Jimmy Carter and Martin Luther King there's a health clinic bomber and Clansman.
Any belief system that needlessly divides our species into 'us' and 'them' is not the way forward.
Christianity is imploding in America. Perhaps our countrymen are waking up to its fundamental flaw.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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May 10, 2014 - 12:16am PT
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So here is a link for you all to think about. You who say there is no history of jesus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great
Generalities with no specific facts mean nothing. Why bother to post stuff that divides and causes conflict if you have no facts to support. And I mean facts, not just your interpretation of what is happening or what a person says.
Believe what you want but give others the same freedom. Also, check facts and history. If you say something, prove it. Other wise it is just spray.
Cheers, Lynne
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 10, 2014 - 12:51am PT
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Constantine lived 300 years after Jesus supposedly did.
Jesus most likely existed, but the historical evidence is pretty scant there. The Jesus myth looks a whole lot like a recycled Isis/Horus myth, as well as several others - virgin birth near the solstice, hunted by a king, divinity and humanity, etc... Given the rarity of resurrection as opposed to the commonality of fish stories, I'd say existence? - probably, but divinity? - not likely.
Who cares? Each of us chooses to act only in the moment, that's all we've got to work with, not 2000 years ago. Christian or not, we choose our present morality - and we certainly don't need Jesus anymore to inform that. There are plenty of zombie-free, non-magical teachings available.
If only it ended there, but it doesn't. Such ancient nonsense, no longer necessary to provide a moral compass, instead drives actions that are harmful to others. I'm not compelled to prevent, through my voting, millions of people I'll never meet from getting married - there exists no external authority to do the compelling.
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WBraun
climber
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May 10, 2014 - 01:01am PT
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And there's that little detail about his mom being a virgin...
That's right "The Virgin Mary" gives birth.
None of you mundane people can do this.
Only the saktyavesa avatara can do this.
The saktyavesa avatara is far beyond your mundane understanding and silly little man made limited instruments to capture.
Fruity wants to send me to dark ages lol all while you hide in the dark shadows.
Who's really in the dark.
Come out into the light and you'll "see" the saktyavesa avatara .....
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 10, 2014 - 01:02am PT
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Are All Wrong has been the norm rather than the exception throughout most of human history.
I find this pretty amusing. Throughout the history of mankind, people have repeatedly said, "This can't be explained, so it must be the work of God!" Later is was explained. No, boats of the Gods don't carry the sun through the underworld every night.
Yet today, people are still saying, "This can't be explained, so it must be the work of God!"
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 10, 2014 - 01:25am PT
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"This can't be explained, so it must be the work of God!"
Or the devil, Donini must be possessed, to be climbing so hard at an advanced age.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 10, 2014 - 01:36am PT
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If a duck can post or theologize , can it smoke and walk...?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 10, 2014 - 02:27am PT
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Any belief system that needlessly divides our species into 'us' and 'them' is not the way forward.
After reading this thread. Forum. You and Fruity are fine examples!
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 10, 2014 - 08:07am PT
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Gays. Any Christians want to address that one? I asked you already Blu.
I can wait.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 10, 2014 - 09:14am PT
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Locker loves you.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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May 10, 2014 - 09:40am PT
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Go-b can't pass up an opportunity to proselytize . . .
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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May 10, 2014 - 09:49am PT
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Me So Holy.......isn't that right Gobee?
you just have to keep proving why people hate Christians like you, but not Christianity
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