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Captain...or Skully
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Nov 11, 2012 - 12:55am PT
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No, Fritz. BlueBlocker is another guy...an actual Human guy. I know him.
Good guy, different sort. Rockmonkey.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 11, 2012 - 04:24am PT
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I thought you were a bigger man than this show of bigotry.
Actually, pretty much only a bigot could consider what Jim posted as any form of bigotry.
You guys do keep it up, however. The more and longer you do just brings the day we have all three branches of government back in democratic hands again that much closer and god knows I'd prefer not to wait until 2024 for that day to come. As it is, you are never going to see the inside of the Whiteyhouse or another republican senate majority again in your lifetime with your current attitudes.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2012 - 10:34am PT
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TGT, your people--conservatives--hung black people from trees.
No point in giving dirt a history lesson, but I'll try.
If by conservatives, you mean the Jeffersonian conservative republicans, that became modern Democrats versus the Hamiltonian liberal republicans that became the Whigs and then the Republican party you would be correct.
Conservative at the time meant that the forerunners of the Democrats idealized the classical patrician Roman form of republic complete with slaves.
If you look at the county by county electoral map the "cotton belt" is solidly blue.
It always has been. Republicans have never won them, even during the mythical "southern strategy."
Bull Connor still lives in the heart of Democratic Dixie.
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dirtbag
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Nov 11, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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What a crock of sh#t TGT. You are either a liar or ignorant of history. Which is it?
All the lynchers--your people--lynchers--are now republicans.
See Lyndon Johnson's push for the Voting Rights Act.
See Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy.
See Ronald Reagan's state's rights (dog whistling for "segregation") speech in 1980.
See Lee Atwater.
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."[6][7]
These are your people.
Most of the democrats remaining in the south are black.
Edit: and let's not forget the the architects of modern conservatism, Goldwater and Buckley and to some degree, Reagan, all supported segregation.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2012 - 10:51am PT
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Please provide ONE (1) example of a Republican lynching someone.
I can come up with hundreds of examples for Democrats if you want to go there.
Only one party ever had an official terrorist wing, The KKK.
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 11, 2012 - 10:55am PT
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Are you really this obtuse?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 11, 2012 - 10:59am PT
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How bout that pre-planning for an attack on Iran.
You do realize that part of having a world class military means that they have plans in place for invading basically every country on the planet right?
Any time that conflict with a particular country gets any more likely, those plans start getting tweeked and upgraded.
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:10am PT
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And why did southern whites quit voting for Democrats in the 60s?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:24am PT
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And why did southern whites quit voting for Democrats in the 60s?
They got an education and good jobs.
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dirtbag
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:40am PT
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Cheeses & RIce Dirt and Doc complaining about "lynchings". why dont you go back a wee further, im sure theres a neanderthal repug that clubbed his lady over the head before dragging her into a cave.
It's called history, Ron, and it has nothing to do with guys creating jackalopes purporting to see black helicopters.
And btw, with respect to that article, is tea partyism a conservative movement or a liberal one?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:53am PT
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to make such blanket and all encompassing statements isnt accurate
It's on par with using isolated incidents to prove your point, Ron.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nov 11, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
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The reality is, someone has to be right and someone has to be wrong.
Just because you feel that you are correct Ron, does not make it so.
The best thing you can do is to agree to disagree, rather than continually posting things that have been proven incorrect.
How's about you offer constructive thoughts about how to make things better for you, rather than focus on things that piss you off?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 11, 2012 - 12:31pm PT
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How's about you offer constructive thoughts about how to make things better for you, rather than focus on things that piss you off?
But, but but that's not the Limbaugh Dimflaw Way.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nov 11, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
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Ron, you are wrong in your conclusion that the Benghazi incident was a cover up.
Please address my request for answers to the things you gripe about.
And, saying that we should be out of the middle east (see how I typed that out?), is not an answer.
What should we do to make America a better place?
Also, it's spelled 'Secretary of State Clinton', not 'Billary'. Show some respect. Like her or not, show respect for our diplomats, you seem to respect Chris Stevens.
Respect our diplomats, otherwise you're undermining our national pride. Which we all feel.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 11, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
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La Raza is the cartel?
They want to turn the western US into Mexico?
Wow. You've been looking around some funny places Ron.
http://www.nclr.org/
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 12, 2012 - 02:29am PT
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"Lifelong dissent has more than acclimated me cheerfully to defeat. It
has made me suspicious of victory. I feel uneasy at the very idea of a
Movement. I see every insight degenerating into a dogma, and fresh
thoughts freezing into lifeless party line."
--Isador Feinstein Stone, I.F. Stone's Bi-Weekly (May 19, 1969)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 12, 2012 - 02:55am PT
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Ron, dude, you're losing it.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 12, 2012 - 09:18am PT
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Anders, I was baffled at first but then...
4.
Also called democrat wagon. a high, lightweight, horse-drawn wagon, usually having two seats.
The best things on this thread? The pix of Temple Crag and indeed, the one of the 'crag' in Patagonia. But which has the better rock and which is more choss?
Ron, are you intent on becoming the new Fattrad or Lois (two people I like and get along with, but...) or...
...on a 'find search' of the thread, it tells me that Ron is more than 100 searches. Now let's see, and remember, I am not great at arithmetic of mathematics, but as of now 533 posts to this thread and Ron comes up over 100 times, but of course the find search will include posts that have the word Ron in it, but still... let me recheck with only posts Ron has posted, then I will do the maths.
At my count (but don't necessarily trust it as I am a liberal) Ron posted 133 times on this thread. Let's see 533 divided by 133 = OMG, some of us have too much time on our hands.
I can't believe I ate, oops, read the whole thing.
Is my point taken?
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 12, 2012 - 09:29am PT
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http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v11/n475/a03.html
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Hahahahaha, the stupider someone is, the stupider the things they believe
Any paranoid lunatic can find any paranoid lunacy they want on the internet
Only makes you look more delusional - and stupider.
LOL...the author is "Tyrus W. Cobb, Former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan." I guess he got tired of playing for the Detroit Tigers.
BTW, today I saw a bumpers sticker that said "Don't Re-Nig in 2012." Yeah, I'm sure he is an average Dem.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 12, 2012 - 09:44am PT
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Ron, you have GOT to be shitting me.
Are you not reading the signs or hearing what the "protesters" are saying?
The first guys flipped a bird and walked by with a Mexican flag.
Sure those people had a right to assemble, same as the Westboro Baptist people with their "god hates fags" signs at military funerals.
"Go back to Mexico!" assumes that none of them are American citizens.
Or is it a heritage protest not a nationality protest?
See Ron, I don't automatically ally myself with a white person because they are white. I want to know something about their mind or heart.
I know many great Mexicans who have ZERO intention of taking over the western USA. I'm trying to speak reasonably to you, but you seem to jump at any anti-Latino conspiracy you can get your hands on.
Where did you get this hatred of Mexicans anyway?
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