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Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
May 27, 2008 - 07:02pm PT
Right on. Hope I didn’t piss in your Wheaties. I’m not familiar with that dealer but have had good luck with Cheaper Than Dirt. Too bad they recently ditched their member’s club program.
Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
May 27, 2008 - 07:12pm PT
Re. FNC scope mount:
Brugger and Thomet makes a ton of picatinny scope mounts for a variety of weapons. The model BT-21178 fits an FNC and has worked just fine. Don’t know if the person that you sold it to is interested in one but just thought I’d throw it out there. I picked up mine from DSA.

http://www.brugger-thomet.ch/en/manufacturing/mountingsystems/opticalmounts.php?navanchor=2110045
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
May 27, 2008 - 07:40pm PT
tell me what's a good and not so good reloading setup, people?

Really depends on how much time you have for reloading. I have only single stage (old C H). I just don't make time for it. If I did, .45 would cost me pennies a box of 50. Crazy cheap (bullet molds, etc).

I'd probably look at a progressive Dillon if I was really going through the ammo. 550 is the one folks seem to like.

For single stage type reloading, can't beat a rock chucker.

Friends have gone the MEC way and regretted it.

For shotgun, I have a Ponsness/Warren thats been super for many years, and, I hear tell they make a reloader for rifle/pistol. I'd give them a look too.

Cheers,

-Brian in SLC
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 27, 2008 - 08:31pm PT
Tradman,
when Israeli shooters are faced with an "El Presidente" (3 opponents, two shots each) its the third bad guy that gets the only double tap.

Rules, schmools. You want to live don't you?
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 27, 2008 - 08:31pm PT
Tradman,
because in a real gunfight you wouldn't shoot at each target from left to right like in a competition.
When engaging multiple human targets, you have to asses the threat level of each "bad guy" independently and take them out in appropriate order.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 27, 2008 - 10:15pm PT
No sh#t shak. You might dump six rounds into the guy with the shotgun and then see what the guy with the letter opener is up to. Seriously though I wonder if the new IDPA is as obsessed w/ the doubbletap as IPSC was. We just figured it was a way to get the round count up.

I heard that in the IDPA you can't reload while running and you are only allowed to reload from behind cover? what a chicken sh#t rule if it's true. I don't know about you but I can't hit sh#t when I am running full out so I might as well reload. Actually if you made the decision to take three guys out you would bang em in a row. It's the fastest way to do it, just ask Sargent York. That was more like 7 guys in a row or 11??.
It would make more sense to have have one target require six hits and then other targets require one hit etc. than it does to allways require doubble taps on every target..... JMOP
Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
May 27, 2008 - 11:14pm PT
Sorry for the re-post. I just LOVE this stuff!!!!!!! Click “full size” in the lower right corner of the video box…

http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/Tshack/?action=view¤t=BreaktheSilence.flv
FeelioBabar

climber
Sneaking up behind you...
May 27, 2008 - 11:24pm PT
Don't get me wrong, I love things that go bang, explosions and especially fire.

But that's a great way get yourself a bill from a wildland fire, and as soon as rotors turn....we are talking EXPENSIVE. You think unleaded is costly...try Jet A.

Just something to think about, and since I know you're in the Reno area....that sh#t can go up any time of year.

What was the shot with? Cool footage.

Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
May 27, 2008 - 11:45pm PT
Thanks for your concern. I am well aware of the fire danger; that’s why I chose that spot. It’s pretty difficult to set dirt on fire but maybe the vegetation looks closer to the blast in the video than it actually was. That mud flat was a giant puddle a month earlier. I wasn’t worried and I am the type to worry about these kinds of things. Shot it with 55gr .223 out of an AR.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 28, 2008 - 12:25am PT
I believe that it was the confidence and presence of mind that York displayed that earned the erstwhile conscientious objector such glory.

Knowing from goose hunts back home that the way to bag the highest numbers was to shoot from the back of the flock to the front he did the same with germans. At one point he was charged by an officer leading six men. York picked them off the same way leaving the (surprised and disappointed) officer for the final round in his 1911 (remember, they didn't have eight round clips back then).

He racked up 29 KIAs in one day as I recall. Pretty good for a pacifist. LOL
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 28, 2008 - 07:22am PT
Then there was Jim Cirillo of the NYPD armed robery squad, he took down 9 bad guys in his time on the squad and claimed that the Bianci Cup was way more stressfull than any gunfight he was ever in. He took down 3 armed shooters once by simply looking at his sights and shooting them once each "just like I would have on the range" with old fassioned .38sp and this was no fancy xp loads just crappy old RNL placed right through the heart. The problem is that a 3 shot stage is not exciteing enough so we have to add the doubble tap even though it makes no tacticle sense and is not proven to stop anyone better than a single well placed shot.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 28, 2008 - 09:23am PT
Something tells me they weren't just standing there waiting to get shot, but that's the the thing. One shot well placed trumps all the wild spray and pray.
Like I said about York, presence of mind.

(a characteristic not without value in climbing as well)
Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
Jun 7, 2008 - 11:50pm PT
Doug Buchanan

Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
Jun 8, 2008 - 01:53pm PT
Is not the human mind's common quest to reach, by any means, a precise spot beyond arm's length, such as with an AK or AR, similar in neural process and competition to the quest to reach a precise spot beyond the ability of the other guy, such as by climbing a mountain or cliff?

Therein, with all of that concept's diverse manifestations, we again recognize the humans as a single design entertaining themselves with their common perceptions of opposing the other guy's perceptions.

With that knowledge we can laugh more robustly at the pitiably ignorant National Park rangers and their government ilk, especially the environmentalists, who genuinely perceive that they are protecting something from the humans they are, by arresting the CLIMBERS who do not kowtow to the ARMED government.

Therein is more value from the knowledge of guns and climbing.

Doug

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 13, 2008 - 07:49am PT
The Nc star 3x9 was not all that sharp @ 9 power. I liked it @ 4 power and would consider the mark3 in straight 4 power.. The recticle did not have enough adjustment to compensate for the high side mount on my rifle. aparently it is designed for the M4.

I settled on a a used Weaver 1.5 to 3 power that seems to work just fine.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 14, 2008 - 12:45am PT
its like ted nugent is filling in for grinning evil death ;-)

question - how many people have night sights on their pistols ?
Doug Buchanan

Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
Jun 14, 2008 - 05:09am PT
Not me. It is daylight all night in the summer in Fairbanks, and the bears are not out in winter.

That really does look a bit like Ted. The day the ask-no-questions, stay-dumb Republican beg-for-their-rights NRA Directors were glad to see the Director with the beard and pony tail at his last Board meeting (declined to run for a second term), in walks Ted, as a new Director with a much longer pony tail, causing no few old guard Directors to cringe again. I laughed. Alas, Ted's music is superlative but he was clueless of how to regain gun owner rights, chose to remain clueless, learn no new knowledge, and fit comfortably into the self-serving NRA Director subculture.

How did this thread last so long?

Doug
James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
Jun 14, 2008 - 01:09pm PT
Previous post deleted on advice of attorney. I am in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia and even though the rifle is legally configured, there is no way to tell from the picture and I don't need the possible hassle. Other public forums have been monitored and guys have been prosecuted because of illegally configured OLL (off list lowers)rifles. Ted has left the building.
James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
Jun 15, 2008 - 12:40pm PT
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paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 15, 2008 - 01:32pm PT
prosecuted for a picture...niiiiice. oh well - it was a cool shot james...
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