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apogee
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:01am PT
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"we should be honest when people we don't like do the right thing."
It's all about patterns and trends, man...patterns and trends.
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mtnyoung
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Twain Harte, California
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:15am PT
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[21:05:00] COOPER: I spoke in the last hour with Strategic Analyst and Author, Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters. Here's what he said about the President's ongoing attacks on Senator McCain.
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RALPH PETERS, RETIRED UNITED STATES ARMY LIEUTENANT COLONEL, AUTHOR: John McCain was and in our hearts remains the man Trump could never be, and Trump knows it. It's a classic case of male fears of inadequacy.
I mean it goes along perfectly with his -- his lifelong obsession with having a -- women on his arm that look like teenage boys' fantasies. He wants to show us all how tough he is, but he's not tough.
EDIT:
That's the only bit that's been transcribed so far.
He goes on to describe what a weak and worthless man our president is... in really fun detail.
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apogee
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:20am PT
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Reposted because it's worth watching, and because the link to this was scrubbed somehow:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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mtnyoung
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Twain Harte, California
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:23am PT
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Thanks Apogee. That's the clip.
Your computer/technical skills are better than mine....
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apogee
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:23am PT
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Of course, commentary like that is only preaching to the choir of anti-Trumpers, and it will never, EVER sway his supporters (who are apparently brain injured and morally bereft).
But when you are being gaslighted as a nation, and told things you know are not true over and over by a truly bad person, it's comforting to have someone come forward and confirm that what you are seeing really is wrong.
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mtnyoung
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Twain Harte, California
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:39am PT
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^^^
I agree absolutely.
But, I particularly like it when the commenter is a long, long established conservative. Someone who has a well-established history of plain and intelligent talk (I've been following Peters since he wrote for Armed Forces Journal International starting in the early '90s - sometimes I agreed and sometimes not, but his language and his arguments are always clear and often innovative).
I've come to like Max Boot for similar reasons.
I can listen to and talk with real conservatives, those that have stayed true to their values instead of bowing before a "mid-town Mussolini."
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Treezypoof
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Cyberia
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:49am PT
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Lol. Washed up old douchbags. Like hannity and Rivera cracking each other up with the same stupid joke again and again.
Brought to you by the US Forest service and sugar mammas.
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apogee
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:50am PT
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Kellyanne Conway defends Trump after he attacks her husband
'You think he should just take that sitting down?' she says about Trump after George Conway questioned his mental fitness.
By DANIEL LIPPMAN 03/20/2019 12:59 PM EDT
Kellyanne Conway on Wednesday defended President Donald Trump’s attacks on her husband George Conway saying he’s “a counterpuncher” and asserting that the president is free to respond when he’s accused of having a mental illness.
“He left it alone for months out of respect for me,” Conway, a senior Trump aide, told POLITICO in a brief telephone interview. “But you think he shouldn’t respond when somebody, a non-medical professional accuses him of having a mental disorder? You think he should just take that sitting down?”
“Don't play psychiatrist any more than George should be,” she added. “You're not a psychiatrist and he's not, respectfully.”
Conway’s defense of her boss comes as Trump has spent the past two days ripping her husband on Twitter. While the president has generally restrained from attacking George Conway, a longtime conservative lawyer who has repeatedly mocked Trump on Twitter, he broke from that habit on Monday after George Conway claimed he suffered from mental illness.
“George Conway, often referred to as Mr. Kellyanne Conway by those who know him, is VERY jealous of his wife’s success & angry that I, with her help, didn’t give him the job he so desperately wanted,” Trump tweeted Wednesday morning. “I barely know him but just take a look, a stone cold LOSER & husband from hell!”
Trump later on Wednesday took the Twitter feud offline, telling reporters that George Conway is a “whack job” and doing a “tremendous disservice to a wonderful wife.”
Full moon whackery, indeed.
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Ken M
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Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 20, 2019 - 11:56am PT
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A shocking Pew Research Center poll last year found that far more people around the world view the United States as a threat than China or Russia.
That perception is a bigger blow to American primacy than any new weapons system that China or Russia could develop.
----Max Boot
I've also grown to like Max. I had the chance to meet him last year, and participate in a UCLA seminar which he gave on his latest book (fascinating).
He spoke widely, though, and his contempt for Trump could not have been clearer.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Mar 20, 2019 - 12:02pm PT
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Yes, true conservatives are worth engaging. Bootlickers? Not so much (pun obviously intended).
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dirtbag
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Mar 20, 2019 - 01:56pm PT
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For some people, it would probably be better if they simply ignored all of his tweets
Wouldn’t that be nice?
That would be the case if he was still just a real estate huckster, or a reality tv guy.
The problem is that the president’s words matter greatly, and this tweet (and others) are indicative of a very troubling mental state. So, we have to pay close attention to all of it.
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Fritz
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Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 20, 2019 - 02:36pm PT
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Just back from a trip to town & a Fox News fix.
The Fox talking heads & one Democrat were discussing Trump's apparent obsession with, & recent bashing of John McCain.
One of the talking heads said that it was discourteous, but was instantly savaged by another who argued loudly:
As long as liberals say bad things about Ronald Reagan, it's more than fair to criticize John McCain!
The talking heads clucked approval, forgetting that John McCain used to be a Republican icon.
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John Duffield
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New York
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Mar 20, 2019 - 03:33pm PT
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The McCain business has the feel of a diversion. They throw red meat out there to distract people. But here's a shocker. Deep down people don't really care for war heroes. I dunno why. Even when I was in the Army. The guy that stepped on a mine was mocked as a klutz.
Probably healthier to let all of it go and watch animal videos. First day of Spring has brought out lots of good ones.
The internet is having fun with this. Statements made with something between each word are not refutable.
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apogee
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Mar 20, 2019 - 03:50pm PT
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I’m sure a fair amount of Trump’s bullshit is intended as diversion, but regarding McCain, I think there is some real, genuine animosity there. To my eye, McCain was a LOT more justified in his dislike of Trump.
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apogee
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Mar 20, 2019 - 04:24pm PT
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Trump is neither a true Conservative nor a true Republican. He’s a shape-shifting huckster who will put on whatever guise he thinks will get him what he wants.
Republican dislike of McCain merely conveniently dovetails with Trump’s selfish interest. Trump hates McCain because he was much more genuine than he is, and McCain called him out for who he is: a slimy huckster.
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10b4me
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Lida Junction
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Mar 20, 2019 - 09:51pm PT
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Of course, commentary like that is only preaching to the choir of anti-Trumpers, and it will never, EVER sway his supporters
except that the response to trump's talk(He dissed McCain again) at that tank factory was silence, and they are conservative military types.
Kellyanne Conway on Wednesday defended President Donald Trump’s attacks on her husband George Conway
what kind of person would defend their boss over their significant other?
when is the divorce?
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HermitMaster
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my abode
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Mar 20, 2019 - 10:10pm PT
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Mar 21, 2019 - 06:29am PT
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her obviously incredibly enlightened, fully forward thinking district.
I think all of the /pol is going in this thread because it has survived. Maybe OP was clever here. The naming hasn't attracted the attention of the Moderators.
The consensus locally, appears to be they voted for AOC the person rather than AOC the ideology. She's young and energetic. I watched her campaign during the Summer. She really got out there.
Which reminds me of this. Some 20% of Bernie voters in the Primary voted for Trump. The MsM narrative was that they didn't like Hillary. But maybe they wanted someone angry and energetic.
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