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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 22, 2018 - 08:56pm PT
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Maybe its Dwain's addiction to painkillers that has got him so huffy with you.....
Yeah - Dwain - Every time I see you post the "drunk" photos, I am going to suggest that you are an addict. What? It's "different???? How's that?
In other news, some shitstain has been arrested for making threats to come and "gun down" people at the CNN headquarters, because they make "fake news."
http://thehill.com/media/370207-man-arrested-after-threatening-to-kill-cnn-employees
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2018 - 08:59pm PT
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Sort of cute Dwain, but haven't you been there before with that graphic?
Listen, it is way past my bedtime, going on 5am.
I started this thread to make people sit up and take notice. Not that other threads have not had the same goal and/or purpose. I am nothing special (except in my own eyes.)
But I sit out, looking in. A different perspective than some.
Where, as a nation, is the US headed?
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And Russ, do not be so disingenuous, it does not suit you, from what little I know of you.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 22, 2018 - 09:28pm PT
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If a thoracic spinal injury, not cervical in the study, can affect the brain, why not lumbar or sacral?
It would explain a lot.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 22, 2018 - 10:01pm PT
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Yeah, just being in that much pain would be depressing, but clinical depression involves changes to the brain.
I used to enjoy your sense of humor.
Seeing you attacking Patrick is sad.
Even though I agree with his politics, his dramatic self-referential posting is too much. But he also seems like someone who is like an open wound in need of cauterizing.
Why pour salt. Make a funny harmless comic of one-eyed climbers or something.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2018 - 05:38am PT
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his dramatic self-referential posting is too much. But he also seems like someone who is like an open wound in need of cauterizing.
Yeah Lennox, ain't that the truth. I am trying to deal with the crap that has happened over the past few years. Crap I brought upon myself.
I was seeing a counsellor, David, at Family Life and Services in Wexford, I consult with friends (here from the Taco Stand, people I have never met in person, just cyber friends, and climbers), I consult with a dear cousin in LA, a well-respected doctor of psychology, I run my angst by others I consider dear to me. And at the end of the day, I may be a pain in the ass.
Melodrama, that's me. I have good intentions though, but to quote my mother (and others): "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
"I am on the highway to Hell", was that Van Halen or Bon Jovi, or Little Richard? Meat Loaf? Chopin? Not Bob Dylan, I know that much. I'll look it up, good song though.
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AC/DC, funny I should have known that. My landlord has an AC/DC book among his things in the loft (I think for one of his sons, I cannot imagine Graham being an AC/DC fan, perhaps, maybe).
his dramatic self-referential posting is too much.
Well, don't read them then, nobody is twisting your arm. Would you wish me to delete my self-referential postings?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jan 23, 2018 - 06:07am PT
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Cosmic - Did you have your back surgery?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 23, 2018 - 08:04am PT
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...I've been off the pain meds fo 5 months now
because of all the new laws....
Man that pisses me off... all of this "Evil Opiates" crap spewed now 24x7.
People in legitimate pain can take boatloads of properly dosed pharma-grade opiates to ease their suffering without any danger.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:28am PT
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It’s crazy what you have to go thru now to get some decent pain meds. All because there are
so many weak-willed loozers out there. After DR Frankenfurter effed up my recent surgery
I was at 10/10 and all he sent me home with was Norco! They made me come in just to
torture me some more and see what kind of pain I was in before they gave me only Percoset!
JEEZUS! I shoulda been on a morphine drip!
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:28am PT
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I’m sorry you are suffering.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:33am PT
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Thanks, Dirt, don’t let it happen again, mkay?
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2018 - 09:43am PT
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There must be a better way. I suffer from aches and pains of injuries, accidents and stupidity. But nothing that great, some Vimovo a couple of times a week.
Dwain, despite what differences we may have in other areas and walks of life, I hope you get some help and relief. Pain is not fun, is it, unless one is a masochist, and I don't think any of us Taco Standers are that.
Then again, maybe I am wrong. Who else but a masochist could sit in a butt chair belaying somebody for hours upon end, or freeze their tootsies off in sub-zero temps while climbing, risking life and limb and frostbite to boot. Who else can take a screaming fall, and end up with just bruises and scrapes?
Masochists, the lot of us, and don't we love it.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:48am PT
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All because there are
so many weak-willed loozers out there
There have always been people prone to addiction who will continue to abuse whatever substance is available. Nothing will ever change that.
The media is to blame for this recent anti-opiate frenzy which have left many people I know in pain for absolutely NO REASON.
How many people a day does alcohol kill? Thousands? Yet there's a super-sized liquor store on every corner. It's so absurd it makes me want to tear my hair out.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2018 - 10:04am PT
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The media is to blame...
Fear, is that the true story? Why always blame the messenger, but I do know the power of the media (heck I will stick my neck out and say I probably have more experience working in the media than anybody on this forum), so your point is well taken.
In some ways, blaming the media is blaming ourselves. Hmmm.
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John M
climber
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Jan 23, 2018 - 10:11am PT
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Have you seen a pain specialist? I had one in Fresno who specialized in addiction, so when he met me he said I was not addicted and was on the wrong pain meds. 10 minutes with him and I had the proper script. Thats what I had to do to get serious pain meds when my back was giving me fits. It might have helped that I was also seeing a well respected psychiatrist at the time. But I did not realize that he could also deal with my physical pain. The pain med doc knew my psychiatrist. So they worked together and after that my psychiatrist prescribed all my pain meds.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 23, 2018 - 10:24am PT
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Fear, is that the true story? Why always blame the messenger, but I do know the power of the media
The 24x7 news cycle needs constant fodder even when there is none. So no longer are there any reporters who actually think and research. Bad human behavior gets blamed on things (opiates, weed, guns, "Muslims") rather than digging deeper to find the root of bad behavior.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 23, 2018 - 10:51am PT
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John M, my bro-in-law used to head the U of Washington Pain Clinic.
Thanks, but I was mainly ventilating. Although at my worst I was hyperventilating! 😖
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John M
climber
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Jan 23, 2018 - 10:55am PT
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Reilly... I was mainly talking to Cosmic. I figured you didn't have a pain med problem now.
When pain is going full fledged, you want pain relief right now. When its chronic, thats bad too. Been there and done both. I did a lot of work to get my back into a better place.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jan 23, 2018 - 10:57am PT
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The CDC has just announced its new protocol for Doctors prescribing narcotics.
Cancer patients stay outside of this new regulation
while all other chronic pain patients must reduce their daily"morphine equivalent" pain medication to no more than 90 "units" a day whatever that means
this is in direct response to the do something about the overdose deaths outcry
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 23, 2018 - 10:59am PT
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Finally, someone Locked in with the answer.
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