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monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 09:43pm PT

Interesting K-Man, so no plane debris on the lawn. Do tell us all about it.

As for the spools, they need not be directly hit to be moved. The plane struck the fence, which could in turn moved the spools. Or a number of other combinations.

It wouldn't take much to get spools rolling, after all, spools are round and roll easily.

Truther's spotting anomalies in a chaotic incident (look that blast resistant window didn't break) is funny.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 3, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
"just disappeared into dust."













































[Click to View YouTube Video]
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 3, 2012 - 09:56pm PT
Wow graniteclimber, I don't believe the 9/11 Commission, even when they themselves admit they were lied to and their report is a sham. Thousands of people don't believe the lies that we've been told, and and we're told to shut up when we admit we don't swallow them.

And now you. You want to fly airplanes into my house and kill me because I question the official story of 9/11.


I think you should be banned for those words, suggesting bodily harm to me and ruination of my home.
You are a sad excuse for a person.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 09:58pm PT
GC, that demo doesn't apply to the pentagon cuz it's not exactly the same.

K-Man you sound just like Klimmer. He complained he was being threatened because he was exposing the truth. Better whine to CMac.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 3, 2012 - 10:09pm PT
And by the way you sad sack.

That video of the plane--it's a great demonstration that planes that hit concrete walls and disintgrate--they don't punch through the wall, they vaporize instead.

Thanks for helping to prove my point.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 10:38pm PT
And a fighter is many times less massive than a 757.

K-Man is still having issues with inertia.

BTW, that wall was designed to move to help absorb the impact, not like the pentagon.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:50pm PT
GC, that demo doesn't apply to the pentagon cuz it's not exactly the same.

Yes, it shows what happens when an airplane hits a heavily reinforced solid concrete block. It shows that aircraft can be shattered into unrecognizable pieces. The Pentagon is a honeycomb of walls that are strong reinforced concrete, but not nearly as strong a the concrete block in the video.
That video of the plane--it's a great demonstration that planes that hit concrete walls and disintgrate--they don't punch through the wall, they vaporize instead.


My God you're stupid. Not all walls are the same. You think the result would be he same if an airplane hit a 1 mm concrete wall, or a wall of a building or a solid steel reinforced block of concrete that was MADE to stop an airplane?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:17am PT

Wing damage?

Gee, I wonder what happened to the footage from that camera...

National security, I'm certain.


How about in this picture. Can you draw for me where the right wing impacted the building?




Name calling, graniteclimber--it's what lesser minds do when they run out of intelligent things to say.
It appears you started in pretty soon ...
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:35am PT
Kman, if you carefully compare the photo you posted with the one Monolith posted a few pages back, it's clear that the hole just right of the circle in your picture IS the wing damage. The main highest damage is in the collapsed portion of the building right of that

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:37am PT
Werner, if you're going to paste text, it's good to cite the course, cause as smart as you are, I don't think you're doing nuclear analysis related to 9-11

I googled it

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/29/mini-neutron-bombs-a-major-piece-of-the-911-puzzle/

Peace

karl
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 01:13am PT
It's good you're in rescue work, Werner. It's something you are good at. I'd trust you to rig a rope I can jug up.

If you were an engineer and worked at a car or plane manufacturer, I don't think I'd want to ride any of those cars or planes. And if you designed a building I wouldn't want to go in it or walk past it. I'm afraid it would self-destruct even before the hamsters wired it with demo charges.

Heh heh heh
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 01:22am PT
You can't trust the judgement of Hamsters, they're stoners


That's cause they're from Hamsterdam

Just sayin

graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 01:38am PT
It's pretty unrealistic that the Cores would not maintain some visibility as the building went down via the pancake theory. You cannot have a pancake theory without resistance from the Core, and the Core could certainly not pancake.

It makes no sense that the collapsing floors pulled the Cores down since if the attachment was that strong, there would be no collapse. The floors supposedly sheared from the Cores. There is absolutely not way it all pancaked at once.

I had posts on this in the thread that got deleted. It's not a pancake theory--the WTC towers used a "tube within a tube" structure. The inner tube (inner core) was linked to the outer tube (perimeter walls). The theory is that these "unzipped" causing the towers to collapse much faster then they would if they pancaked.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 01:44am PT
I wrote:

I'd trust you to rig a rope I can jug up.

Werner responded:

Our crew rigged him in such a way that we left him on purpose so he couldn't jug back up.

Werner, thanks for correcting me and informing us that we CANNOT trust you to rig a rope.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2012 - 01:45am PT
Those buildings took hundreds of engineers to design. So a couple of
meatheads on the internet are gonna tell us how they came apart? Right.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 4, 2012 - 01:48am PT
The floors connected the inner tube (the core) with the outer tube (the perimeter frame)

What are you saying unzipped exactly?

It was in the NIST report. I don't think they used the word "unzip" but that's what they were describing. I had posts on it in the deleted thread that I spent time on and I don't have the time to redo them now.

But if you like this topic, you should read the NIST report. You don't have to agree with it but at least you will know what you are not agreeing with.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 09:29am PT
If there is nothing to hide then why continue to keep the Pentagon surveillance videos hidden?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 10:01am PT
Kman, if you carefully compare the photo you posted with the one Monolith posted a few pages back, it's clear that the hole just right of the circle in your picture IS the wing damage.


Karl, I'm looking at this graphic for comparison:



For comparison, here's the img again. From my perspective, there should be damage where there is none:






####

Collapse from impact damage and fire? You are being lied to:

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 10:29am PT
Sorry I linked the wrong image kman. I guess the issue is if that plane is drawn to scale and how much damage the light wingtips made. Wingspan is 125 feet. Count the windows in your image to compare distances


Personally, I think all this demolition and 757 didn't hit the pentagon evidence, true or not is a huge distraction from the real damning questions that come from following the money, able danger, the war games, Norman M's testimony, the identity of the hijackers and how they got their visas and that aspect of it

Peace

Karl
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 10:47am PT
The problem with that photo, Karl, is that you can't see anything.

If the graphic that shows the drawn-in 757 is correct, then Houston, we have a problem.

But I agree--we can battle back and forth over the physical evidence. We can also ignore testimony from eye witnesses. We can also ignore the reports that 6-8 of the terrorist "fliers" were still alive after the events.

We can also ignore building don't just collapse they way the three Trade Center towers did, or that the damage at the Pentagon is inconsistent with other airliner plane crashes.

Oh, there is just so much to ignore.

The real key is to follow the money, and to look at the reactions from the events.

W stonewalling any investigation, and a refusal to follow the money. The list of reactions, too, is so very long.
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