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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Werner, you're reading the Russian Govt for your news? I'm all for having a wide variety of sources, but I don't trust Putin any more than most of the fools around here. Even less in fact.
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150307/1019201301.html
Sputnik is an international multimedia news service launched on 10 November 2014 by Rossiya Segodnya, an agency wholly owned and operated by the Russian government, which was created by a Decree of the President of Russia on 9 December 2013.
Iraqi counter-terrorism forces arrested four foreign military advisors from the United States and Israel who were aiding the Islamic State, Iranian Tasnim News Agency reports.
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WBraun
climber
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I didn't read any of your news feeds.
Get with the program.
Get it from the source directly on the ground.
Stoopid Americans only believe ONE thing.
America is so pure and does nothing wrong and America is the savior of the world fighting the bad guys.
American Hollywood loon consciousness.
No wonder the whole planet is soooo sick ......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Rossiya Segodnya
Homes, that should read 'Rossiya Sevodnya'. It is a 'g' in Russian but it is
pronounced as a 'v'.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Homes, I didn't spell the damn thing.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Hey, don't take it personally or I'll call you BVB2!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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recent facebook interchange
class pres 76 One Iranian nuclear bomb/ EMP can ruin your whole day... OBAMA's gonna give it to them. SAVE the baby HUMANS...
Please don't spread that anti-Israel stuff. Some people have no clue what's happening, and unfortunately they vote Muslims into office.
hippie lib: You think Obama is a Muslim, class pres 76? And he's going to give Iran a nuke?
March 6 at 2:22pm · Like · 1
class pres 76: He's a lying Muslim... It's a centuries old practice called Hudna in the Koran... See "America 2016" movie by Dinesh D'Souza... Great expose about him... and the "sunset clause" in his Iranian deal gives them unlimited rights to enrich uranium for any (military) purpose in 10 years, assuming thru don't annihilate anybody before then... like they keep saying they must do, to get the infidel Jews out of their land. We shouldn't even be talking to Iran while they make such threats, but he's undoing years of sanctions to further Islamic world domination.
this seems to me the hallmark of stupidity. but then I'm a socialist hippie lib. Rightwingers are you basing your worldview on netfix?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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There is no shortage of stupidity anywhere on Facebook...
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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ST's got plenty to go around too.
:-)
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 10, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
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No shortage of stupidity in the upper echelons either.
Subject: A-10 driver perspective
Date: March 6, 2015 at 4:16:21 PM EST
FYSA
The squadron is doing fine. Everybody is happy to be here and we are doing some good work. The A-10s are holding up well and the technology we have have on the jets now (targeting pods, GPS guided bombs, Laser Guided bombs, Laser guided missiles, tactical data link, satellite comms), and of course the gun, make the A-10 ideal for this conflict. We are killing off as many ISIS as we can, mostly in ones and twos, working with the hand we are dealt. I’ve never been more convicted in my career that we facing an enemy that needs to be eradicated.
With that being said…I’ve never been more frustrated in my career. After 13 years of the mind-numbing low intensity conflict in Afghanistan, I’ve never seen the knife more dull. All the hard lessons learned in Vietnam, and fixed during the first Gulf War, have been unlearned again. The level of centralized execution, bureaucracy, and politics is staggering. I basically do not have any decision making authority in my cockpit. It sucks. In most cases, unless a general officer can look at a video picture from a UAV, over a satellite link, I cannot get authority to engage. I’ve spent many hours, staring through a targeting pod screen in my own cockpit, watching ISIS perpetrate their acts until my eyes bleed, without being able to do anything about it. The institutional fear of making a mistake, that has crept into the central mindset of the military leadership, is endemic. We have not taken the fight to these guys. We haven’t targeted their centers of gravity in Raqqa. All the roads between Syria and Iraq are still intact with trucks flowing freely. The other night I watched a couple hundred small tanker trucks lined up at an oilfield in ISIS-held northeast Syria, presumably filling up with with oil traded on the black market, go unfettered. It’s not uncommon to wait several hours overhead a suspected target for someone to make a decision to engage or not. It feels like we are simply using the constructs build up in Afghanistan, which was a very limited fight, in the same way here against ISIS, which is a much more sophisticated and numerically greater foe. It’s embarrassing.
Be assured that the Hawg drivers are doing their best.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 11, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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Werner thinks we're spending millions of dollars every day to bomb our own guys. Tee hee hee hee!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 11, 2015 - 12:55pm PT
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That whole story is a fabrication.
Dave, what's yer rationale? It sounds like what war fighters have been
frustrated about for lo these 50 years. We carefully select people of
exceptional qualities, spend millions training them, and then tell them
"you're not qualified to make a decision even though you are on the scene -
some dipsh!t in the rear who is more worried about jeopardizing his retire-
ment at O-6+ is better qualified to make the call."
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 11, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
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Reilly, they require supervision or they would just kill people all the time.
Trust me, I know these people....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 11, 2015 - 01:35pm PT
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In any case I really don't give a fuk if some bored pilot is unhappy because he doesn't get to shoot whomever he feels like killing.
Well, I guess you have both no familiarity with nor respect for the type of
individuals our officer corps is comprised of. Cynicism does have its
down side.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 11, 2015 - 02:13pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 11, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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Oh, DMT, do tell me about being an officer, I'm all ears. The 'Great Santinis'
get weeded out very quickly, except in Hollywood. Everybody accepts the
need for ROE's but that doesn't mean they have to make sense. You certainly
don't have to like them, you only have to heed them. Our possibly fictional
character upthread expressed himself succinctly, reasonably and, without
a doubt, very representatively.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 11, 2015 - 04:56pm PT
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I’ve spent many hours, staring through a targeting pod screen in my own cockpit, watching ISIS perpetrate their acts until my eyes bleed, without being able to do anything about it.
That whole story is a fabrication.
And not a good one....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 16, 2015 - 09:36am PT
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You guys really should be in charge of the world since you clearly know everything,
including how everyone else thinks and is able to express themselves. I did
allow that our 'hero' was possibly somebody's figment but you guys have me in
stitches by purporting to be able to expose him based on his writing skills.
You know, I just took a look at the United States Uniformed Services Oath of
Office, not to be confused with the United States Armed Forces oath of enlistment,
to make sure that I hadn't forgotten something lo these many years on and
it does indeed fail to make any stipulation about an officer's ability to express
himself, even by proxy. I did learn that:
" The oath is for an indeterminate period; no duration is specifically defined."
Yikers! I am still duty bound to turn your treasonous lot in! YER FOREWARNED!
Meanwhile, I just pulled this classic shot off of Reuters. I think the title was:
"Somebody just got owned!"
I mean, when you buy a carpet and the dude is unabashedly grinning ear-to-ear
afterwards you KNOW you left a pile of moolah on the table!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 16, 2015 - 09:59am PT
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A couple things in the story struck me as unlikely but I can't say conclusively it is made up, though I suspect it is. However it does sound like the kind of thing you hear a lot in various wars.
First oddity
"It’s not uncommon to wait several hours overhead a suspected target for someone to make a decision to engage or not."
These guys wait in shifts? I think the hawgs might barely make 2hrs flight time if careful. I suppose they do probably refuel ..so maybe but seems odd.
Second some of the discussion if real would likely be of classified material.
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