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dirtbag
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 18, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
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Isis is bad.
These guys
would make the situation worse.
Discuss.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 04:52pm PT
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What happened to ISIS Part 1 ??
Destroyed by Trolls?
Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.
They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.
They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:
Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:
"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]
Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"
The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:
1.These trolls are some truly difficult people.
2.It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
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The creator of the thread nuked it.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:00pm PT
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Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People; Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic.
By Chris Mooney
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
The Internet is sadists' playground.
In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls (who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences, leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of scientific topics.
That’s bad, but it’s nothing compared with what a new psychology paper has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves. The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).
It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior. What’s more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits (except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent, per day, commenting on the Internet.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
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I liked this one so much I'll share it again.
ISIS moms are hawwt!!
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
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They say third times the charm: Isis, Part trois
I'd say the Alantic article ElCap put up is a good start to understanding their frame of mind. Otherwise....
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
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These loons here are busy studying ISIS but neglect to study the criminal loons who created, train and supply them.
The US, UK and Israel are the main perpetrators.
Thus the fools in this thread have been 0wned again and again as being stupid sheep ....
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:11pm PT
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There are many that are not in denial about what created ISIS
But explaining it here seems to be unproductive,
facts are challenged by the media that only gives us "misinformation and propaganda".
Apparently the are 2 sides, one considering the factual information that changes every day
and the other side that is wrong about everything
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:11pm PT
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Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.
They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.
They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:
Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:
"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]
Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"
The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:
1.These trolls are some truly difficult people.
2.It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People; Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic.
By Chris Mooney
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
The Internet is sadists' playground.
In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls (who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences, leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of scientific topics.
That’s bad, but it’s nothing compared with what a new psychology paper has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves. The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).
It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior. What’s more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits (except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent, per day, commenting on the Internet.
Nice trollery, Craig.
Or do those posts have something to do with discussing ISIL?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:16pm PT
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You don't like hearing from the other side??
What's wrong Sketch/stench/ EdwardT
I thought this was a free forum
I have Never Been a troll, Fact
unlike you,
I think Bruce Kay pinned you perfectly as well
Why are you in such denial?
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:19pm PT
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Craig Fry -- " ... and the other side that is wrong about everything"
And you're right about everything as usual?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:20pm PT
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Or do those posts have something to do with discussing ISIL?
Because the OP deleted his ISIS Thread because of Trolls ....
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crankster
Trad climber
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:25pm PT
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The original thread was "Chiefed".
Very good speech by the President today. We are lucky to have such an intelligent leader.
CNN)President Barack Obama, speaking at his summit on countering violent extremism Wednesday, sought to strike a balance between appealing for more acceptance of Muslim-Americans while emphasizing the need to remain vigilant against radicals who could turn violent.
"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam," Obama said during his remarks, adding later that Muslim leaders "need to do more to discredit the notion that our nations are determined to suppress Islam."
Obama went to lengths before the summit began to avoid linking extremism to the Muslim faith; his intent, aides say, was to avoid giving credence to the ideologies of Islamic State or al Qaeda terrorists.
On Wednesday he sought to explain his wording, declaring al Qaeda and ISIS "desperate for legitimacy."
"They try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of Islam," he said. "We must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie. Nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. They are not religious leaders. They are terrorists."
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
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The Atlantic Monthly article is only half truth speculative oped and avoids the whole truth as usual.
Americas sheep in action .....
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:32pm PT
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Craig Fry wrote:
You don't like hearing from the other side??
What's wrong Sketch/stench/ EdwardT
I thought this was a free forum
I have Never Been a troll, Fact
unlike you,
I think Bruce Kay pinned you perfectly as well
Why are you in such denial?
^This gem^ just oozes irony.
Good stuff.
Thanks, buddy.
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chill
climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
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The Atlantic Monthly article is only half truth and avoids the whole truth as usual .....
Yes, we are blind. But Werner Braun, ensconsed in the Fortress of Truthiness, deep within the bowels of Yosemite Valley, sees the world as it really is.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:57pm PT
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Wait and see... there are going to be some silver linings to this emergent ISIS phenomenon.
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At base: biology.
Adolescent males. In search of... conquest, reward, females.
One of nature's ways of stirring the pot.
Essential to robust evolution.
Too much movement, not enough evolution.
Too little movement, not enough evolution.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Feb 18, 2015 - 05:58pm PT
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Very good speech by the President today. We are lucky to have such an intelligent leader.
Indeed. Totally nailed it. He finally lay this mess at the Islamic Communities door, without being divisive. The worst thing we could do, is alienate the Islamic Community. Without them, we can't eliminate ISIS.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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Jim, are you the ST police now?
and you sure have a lot of poo poo to say about the true left
I have lost all respect thankyou
exactly what did I say that challenged you?
Maybe we can work through this..
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