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go-B
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Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Mar 23, 2012 - 09:06pm PT
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go-B
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Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Mar 23, 2012 - 09:08pm PT
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go-B
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Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Mar 23, 2012 - 09:12pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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Mar 23, 2012 - 09:12pm PT
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Just an (ugly?) rumor maybe, but I heard someone posted a link to this page on Mr. Honnold's face page and he decided to go back in.
Anyway, if you search routes for "God" and "Devil", god comes out a winner 10 to 1. So I guess we can put this to bed huh!
You got a ten times better chance of going somewhere if you are looking for god, than if you go looking for the devil.
Edit: thanks go-b for the clearest presentaton of levitation technique yet.
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luggi
Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
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Mar 23, 2012 - 09:27pm PT
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Michaeld..be careful when you quote from a science fiction writer...just saying
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Mar 23, 2012 - 09:36pm PT
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That being said, where is the proof that God isn't science fiction, and the bible isn't a science fiction novel?
PLEASE do not think I'm a Scientology believer... I do not have nearly enough money to be one.
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luggi
Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
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Mar 23, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
don't want to elaborate on already stated material...
readers digest....
Several authors, archeological evidence to support...and independent documentation from historians of the time.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 23, 2012 - 11:18pm PT
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Good Science fiction is better researched and more plausible than that
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 01:45am PT
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it's when people like you start pouring it out and telling us we're wrong for not believing it that p*sses me off.
I'm sure I haven't done this. As a matter of fact, I know I haven't. Glory to God for the persecution and evil, for His sake, for it was just this that nailed Christ to the cross and gave mankind the opportunity to accept his free gift. God is good.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 01:58am PT
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ZBrown,
I would guess that people are walking away from you faster than they did from Hubert. BTW bless your dirty little heart, sinner.
Sinner? You betcha!
Romans 3:10 KJV
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans clarifies that one though for those that are saved:
Romans 6:1-23 KJV
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 08:50am PT
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Mistaken Majority
“I am Thy servant…. It is time for Thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void Thy law…. Therefore I esteem all Thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way” (Psalm 119:125-128). “Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge, that I might make thee to know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?” (Proverbs 22:20,21). “As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all” (Luke 17:26,27).
Traditional sayings that many recite, Such as, “The majority rules”, Though widely accepted, are often not right, Embracing the dogma of fools.
IThe time has now come to examine the facts That many ignore in their pride, Regarding the truth of the Lord and His acts Of judgment when He was defied.
Historical judgments of God in the past Were never performed without warning, Yet in many ignored Him until at the last, When judgment then silenced their scorning.
Has not God recorded these things in His writing In Scripture and history’s pages? Has not He provided salvation, inviting A refuge in Christ through the ages?
We see an example from history taken: Majority crowds held their sway When Noah was mocked, yet they were mistaken, Till flood waters swept them away.
Lord, we are Your servants, redeemed by Your grace, Convinced that Your Scriptures are true. We’re seeking the favor alone of Your face, No matter what others may do." - Brother David Hall (http://quiettimepoems.blogspot.com/);.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 08:54am PT
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dogma of fools
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 09:03am PT
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"The first indication of foolishness is misunderstanding." - RU Third Talk
"He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly." -- Prov 14:29
"Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools." - Ecc 7:9
Understand - See Under,see Stand (1828 Websters)
Under - Beneath; below; In a state of pupillage or subjection; In a less degree than., less than.,inferior to.,in a state of bearing or being burdened;,liability or obligation,In subordination to; in the state of protection or defense.
Stand - To be upon the feet; to be fixed or set; To remain upright; to have a certain position or location.
When we are in submission,less than,in a position of being up underneath and bearing the weight of a person,who may be exhibiting their shortcomings,we are actually in "a state of protection or defense." It is when we "stand-up" instead of to "under-stand" that person that we make ourselves vulnerable.
"He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down,and without walls." - Prov 25:28
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 09:15am PT
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Actually these people changed their own lives, perhaps under the influence of Hubert.
When you say God did it, how would you know? Are you saying God is responsible for everything that happens? Say that someone says something stupid, is that God talking out the other side of God's mouth?
I'm not sure why you're questioning when you've already answered your own question...???
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 24, 2012 - 09:27am PT
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Are you saying God is responsible for everything that happens? Say that someone says something stupid, is that God talking out the other side of God's mouth?
Again, where Paul is speaking to those that have "obeyed from the heat this form of doctrine:"
" Romans 6:16-23 KJV
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
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go-B
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Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Mar 24, 2012 - 10:31am PT
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