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grover
climber
Northern Mexico
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popcorn popping.....
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Looks like an interesting project. Wonder why the "writer" needs 100 grand to get it going?
JL
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BDoog
Big Wall climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
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Who do you think made the mountains you climb?
~ Joseph Bryde
:-P
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Define "atheist".
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BDoog
Big Wall climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
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Define "is".
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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No...no...no.... Satan is one of the tools in the tool-box of the Church. An other of their tools is God. Honnold is his own tool.
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Gene
climber
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I thought there were no atheists in foxholes or on unroped 5.12s 2,000 feet above the deck. An atheist maybe, but the lad has huge amounts of faith.
g
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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That's my lad Alex, proud of you, just don't run for political office in this country- we are stuck in the Middle Ages.
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surfstar
climber
Santa Barbara, CA
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WTF?
I should give you money for a book that tells 'believers' that athiests are leading happy lives despite non-belief?
I guess its like passing around a collection basket that funds missionaries.
How much do I have to pledge to get a T-shirt that says "I'm not saving myself and I'm okay with that."?
Some of the internet fund raising now-a-days would shame homeless beggers.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I too, lead a happy life...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The video link in there has Pat Slobertson saying "There is no fellowship between an atheist and someone who's a believer."
I beg to differ Pat. I have many friends who are people of faith who I have significant relationships with. I respect them for reasons other than their belief system and they have the maturity to do the same for me.
I don't discount or ignore the historical or current need for spirituality or belief for many people. But this idea that we need "your" version of spirituality or God running the show is past.
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Gene
climber
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Channeling Survival…
The video link in there has Pat Slobertson saying "There is no fellowship between an atheist and someone who's a believer."
I beg to differ Pat. I have many friends who are atheists who I have significant relationships with. I respect them for reasons other than their belief system and they have the maturity to do the same for me.
g
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Hey, Pat Robertson just said that prayers could have stopped those tornadoes in the Midwest.
Seriously, this guy does more harm to Christianity than all the atheists in the world combined.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Gene
climber
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The Reverend Pastor Robertson is an oxymoron.
g
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Every serious inquiry into the efficacy of prayer has come up with zilch. Prayer cannot be shown to have the slightest effect on the outcome of events with the possible exception of a few placebo cases.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Yeah so science hasn't been able to prove there is any scientific value in prayer, shocker.
The power of prayer is individual and for some people, it provides something for them that can't be quantified. And the absolute opposite for others.
It's best to just leave it at that because when you start pushing your beliefs that prayer is bogus, you're doing the exact same thing as Bible thumpers telling you you gotta find Jezuz or you're gonna burn in hell.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Gene Rocks.
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WBraun
climber
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come out of the closet...
Huh? Everyone is gay?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
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when you start pushing your beliefs that prayer is bogus, you're doing the exact same thing as Bible thumpers telling you you gotta find Jezuz or you're gonna burn in hell.
utter nonsense
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