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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, lynne...
dear lynne, not sure if our output here, is helping?
or, just food for thought, for any future reference that you need,
maybe?
as to your question:
a variety of reasons....
most the reasons come from one root:
started early in life... (though, the root can get planted, later, too)...
hate is taught... learning hate--
(edit-- besides being taught to hate others,
one can be taught to hate oneself, too)
hate becomes a thought pattern, action-re'action (to and
against, almost any situation)...
so:
i am not really sure one 'chooses it'...
HOWEVER, a better question might be,
--> why do people NOT choose to STOP hating...
a person knows what it is,usually by living in, or through it...
it has formed their make-up by now...
and is too-much-a-part of their whole life... so much that
they don't want to change--(or, if some do want to, it is too hard to)...
and: one looses the 'control hold' that it has given their life, at this point...
from there, it only gets worse, as, each human has their
own justification of/for it, and release-actions...
and, distortions from this, multiply within, until
it all spills out into life, and into the world...
so, again, ???
not sure if this helps you, in your question, or not???
for folks to STOP hating, there must be very powerful 'incentive' to do so...
sadly, that is different for everyone, and one can't stop
everyone, at the same time...
perhaps one day a time...
one person at a time...
like trying to heal a garden, that is overgrown, stopping the healing
food of life, which is needed to 'help the garden' in the first place...
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Speaking of hateful. Trump sponsored a TV Ad that was so racist, even Fox News is refusing to air it.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - NBC and Fox News said on Monday they pulled a television advertisement on immigration that was endorsed by President Donald Trump and deemed “racist” by CNN.
The primetime ads, paid for by Donald J. Trump for President, ran during a “Sunday Night Football” broadcast and linked Luis Bracamontes, an undocumented immigrant convicted of killing two sheriff’s deputies in California in 2014 to the caravan of immigrants fleeing Central America.
“After further review we recognize the insensitive nature of the ad and have decided to cease airing it across our properties as soon as possible,” said a spokesperson for NBC Universal in an emailed statement on Monday.
The ad was earlier rejected by CNN who labeled it “racist.”
“CNN has made it abundantly clear in its editorial coverage that this ad is racist. When presented with an opportunity to be paid to take a version of this ad, we declined. Those are the facts,” the network tweeted on Nov. 3.
Fox News issued a statement about taking down the ad shortly after NBC, according to a CNN report.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-advertising/nbc-fox-news-pull-trump-campaign-ad-linking-immigration-crime-idUSKCN1NA298
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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I've said it before; the only way to battle hate or terror is to endeavor to create a world that people want to be a part of rather than escape from.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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If Jesus came back today, what would he say to tRump?
Would Jesus be a “Nationalist”?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I don’t often go to church but when I do I prefer a synagogue -
they put out a good spread. Mmmmm - knish!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Would Jesus be a “Nationalist”?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2018 - 02:10pm PT
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StahlBro, I think most certainly jesus was not a nationalist back when he lived nor would he be one here today. The definition of a "Nationalist" is one who advocates political independence for a country.
If you remember the Romans were in power when jesus came on the scene. The Jewish people were looking for someone to deliver them from the Roman power and restore their freedom and culture and that was what most thought their "Messiah" would be, a political conqueror of the Romans.
That was not jesus. He said, when asked about paying taxes in Matthew 22:
Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar
15 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?”
18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”
21 “Caesar’s,” they replied.
Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2018 - 02:30pm PT
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StahlBro, What jesus would say to President Trump I seriously do not know.
I don't even think jesus would approach him. Jesus mission on this planet was for hope, healing (of all kinds, physical, psychological and emotional) and heaven.
He moved amongst people, not the privileged, power mongers or politicians.
I love Matthew Chapters 4-7.
Four tells about the beginning of jesus entrance into public light. The first things he did:
*Taught in the synagogues
*Preached the good news of the kingdom (of God)
*Healed every disease and sickness among the people
Hardly a politician but a lover of people...everyday people.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Even Jesus hated the banksters.... And it did not end well for him because of it.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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And I'm waiting for someone to comment on the obvious. The hate thread gets over 300 posts, the love one ........9
The difference in age. Young bucks asserting power. More mature folks don't want to get in a hate fest. We've been down that road and learned.
edit: it's your thread. You can delete it whenever you want.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2018 - 11:01am PT
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Thanks zBrown. The last part gives hope.
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fragglerockjoe
Trad climber
space-man from outer space
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Man I could seriously use some help in this topic.
Having run away from hate and emotional attacks for nearly all my life.
Finding myself hanging off of the end of the world.
Why in the hell are people so spiteful?
Do they want to see me unhappy?
Or is it that they are so accustomed to unhappiness that they think I'm supposed to be unhappy so that they feel normal?
That's it! They need me.
They need me so that way they can point the finger and say I'm the bad guy.
Well say good night to the bad guy.
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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don't have the balls to make a good life for yourself? Blame some one who doesn't look like you. Blame crimes.
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fragglerockjoe
Trad climber
space-man from outer space
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It isn't balls. It's credit and apparently somebody forgot to teach us about that sh#t, and we had to learn at age 40 about buying land and how to build a cabin. All by our self.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2018 - 06:35pm PT
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fragglerockjoe, I don't think bit'er ol'guy was necessarily talking about you.
I hear what you are saying. It's a good thing to run from destructive people in your life and say "good night" you won't be their bad guy anymore. Each of us have choices. The trick for me is to make the right choice one day at a time.
We all have life challenges each day of our life. Do I cave or do I change it up. We can change it up no matter what our circumstances or how old we are. I choose to change and grow and struggle to carry it out each day.
Oh yeah, a day at a time, step at a time, with peace, patience and perseverance. It's happening.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Last time I checked,one day at a time is all we are afforded,In the kindest way.
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