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Degaine
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Jun 20, 2016 - 10:31pm PT
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JEleazarian wrote:
While most people I've met seem to believe that every sane person should agree with them,
Every sane person does agree with me. Anyone who doesn't agree with me is clearly insane.
Aren't you sane enough to know that?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 21, 2016 - 12:19am PT
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There are more guns in the US than people. We are awash in guns - like +300mil guns. Outlaw most of them, buyback and melt down 200 million of them and we'd still be awash in guns. It's beyond mindlessly stupid.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 21, 2016 - 05:48am PT
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Why don't you start a crowdfunding site to fund your buy-back program.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jun 21, 2016 - 06:20am PT
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Just think of it... fewer lines at the sports crag. That crag dog barking next door? BAM! Noisy boombox crankin out the Barry Manilow putting a crimp in your crux? BAM! Locals going all local on ya spouting beta you didn't ask for? BAM! Every climber should have a gun. Doubles for the Creek.
To that end, I bought two new ones yesterday. One for me, one to teach the kids. BAM!
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jun 21, 2016 - 06:26am PT
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Easy. More slave labor. Why else would Trump run?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 21, 2016 - 09:35am PT
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I went ahead and sent a message to my representative today asking that he put forth legislation to repeal the National Firearms Act (1934) which would also make the GCA of 1968 invalid.
I figure if the liberal left can put forth political theater legislation, they might as well play by those rules as well.
Wow, that would be awesome.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Jun 21, 2016 - 09:44am PT
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An Invitation to Lemming's Landing
Politicians, lobbyists, mass shooters, and zealots,
Pedophiles and corporations selling guns and bullets,
There's a place that you can be,
Satisfied and worry free,
There's an open invitation for all those so repellent,
Step right up and feel the breeze,
No one cares if you're a sleaze,
It's your chance to be forgiven,
For the sh#t you pulled while livin,'
You can go out on your feet instead of on yer' knees,
So step right up now all you buggers,
To Lemmings Landing and meet the sluggers,
Step right up to the edge,
No back room deals to hedge,
Your admission has been paid by all the souls you've made to suffer,
Lemming's Landing is there there for all you partners in greed,
And there's never enough power to satisfy a politician's need,
For every psychotic killer,
And sociopath who loves a thriller,
The drop is long enough to think of what you've done before you bleed,
Now you've earned your invitation to launch from Lemming's Landing,
So step right up and step right off it isn't too demanding,
Now drop yer' cocks and grab yer' socks,
There's sharks down there below the rocks,
We'll give a little push so there's no misunderstanding.
-bushman
06/21/2016
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jun 21, 2016 - 10:03am PT
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Look people, we just need to get used to the slaughter.
I'm afraid you are correct.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jun 21, 2016 - 10:26am PT
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Bushman,
Having read this poem on at least three different threads now, I see its application as rather more limited than you apparently do. We have what seems a pretty clear act of terrorism, and the mainstream media concentrates on gun control. Two of the big three networks didn't even mention the DOJ's attempt to censor the perp's references to ISIS in the 911 tape transcript.
For those reasons, among others, I'm not so sure lemmings represent as good an analogy as, say, "Three Blind Mice."
John
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 21, 2016 - 11:25am PT
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We have what seems a pretty clear act of terrorism
really John, is it that clear? Of course you want it to be clear to support your position. Isn't it also clear that the shooter was possibly gay. Isn't it clear that the shooter was communicating on gay social media. Isn't it clear that the shooter had been drinking at the club for three years prior. Isn't it clear that the shooter did not know the difference between ISIS, Jabhat al Nusra and Hezbollah.
I am not convinced it had anything to do with terrorism. More to do with self loathing and internal conflicts possibly combined with untreated mental illness. It is not clear, none of it is really clear at this point.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 21, 2016 - 11:43am PT
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The hypocrisy of our government is always amusing.
As the largest arms dealer in the world we can often be found dropping pallets of heavy weapons(I.e. Real 'assaulty' weapons) explosives, etc into various 3rd world sh!tholes around the globe.
And the same govt has a supposed problem with my black and scary pistol gripped rifles.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jun 21, 2016 - 01:14pm PT
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Do unto others what you despise at home.
Shooter may have been all kinds of mentally f*#ked, with blurred lines all over.
And yet he proclaimed the act in allegiance with terrorism. Seems to fit a number of social agendas. Take your pick and run with it. Thats the American way, truth be damned.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 21, 2016 - 01:26pm PT
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The most armed country in the world complaining about gun rights.
We are DEVO.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 21, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
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The gay club shooter was born in USA
was raised by a father who was a strict interpreter of his religion, Islam
and told his son that homosexuality was a terrible sin and that only god would deal with them
the son was homosexual, went to gay clubs
was overridden with shame and embarrassment of his homosexuality
and took it out by killing a lot of his fellow gays
his father and his strict religion had a LOT to do with his son going crazy
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Jun 21, 2016 - 01:52pm PT
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Like a life un-self examined, a life in a de-evolded post apocalyptic world of gun toting morons is also hardly worth living.
I don't have the argumentative chops to hang on these threads, we're all going to hold steadfast to our own opinions anyway.
-bushman out
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 21, 2016 - 03:02pm PT
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 27, 2016 - 08:50pm PT
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So now "men" who beat their wives and children can no long guy guns.
Gun advocates weep.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 27, 2016 - 09:10pm PT
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At least its only those who have been convicted of a crime. As opposed to people on a list they don't know about, managed in secret, by a government bureaucrat with secret rules and perfunctory oversight.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 28, 2016 - 05:04am PT
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Your sister would be SO disappointed.
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