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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
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Well, at least these five cops managed to actually get a take down of this one little guy. They had to kill him, of course, (right in front of his wife) and he allegedly had not done anything wrong (but again the cops created another situation where they got to kill somebody). Just another day in the life of a LEO.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/justice/oklahoma-arrest-death-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 26, 2014 - 02:47pm PT
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Ron, you should have taken a picture of you sitting on a chair next to the sign holding a little sign that says, "Stuck!"
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Feb 26, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
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Compliance or Death.
Or Death by Compliance.
Yes your honor the perp was very compliant.
Until of course rigor-mortis kicked in.
Then we deemed him non compliant again and had to break out the axes.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Feb 26, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
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Well, at least these five cops managed to actually get a take down of this one little guy. They had to kill him, of course, (right in front of his wife) and he allegedly had not done anything wrong (but again the cops created another situation where they got to kill somebody). Just another day in the life of a LEO.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/justice/oklahoma-arrest-death-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Yeah, I saw that one too.
But what do we know, we're just "civilians" who can't be expected to have a reasoned opinion as to whether cops crushing someone to death is actually good police practice.
Let's just see what other cops thing about that, and if they say it's OK, it should be good enough for us.
Right?
(Sarcasm aside, it seems that they guy they crushed hadn't done anything wrong whatsoever, but the cops likely didn't know that.)
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Feb 26, 2014 - 03:51pm PT
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... we're just "civilians" who can't be expected to have a reasoned opinion as to whether cops crushing someone to death is actually good police practice.
Yup, the congress, president, voters, shouldn't have any say in wars, either. The military are experts. They'll know best how to handle other countries.
In construction we say, ask a carpenter to fix something and he'll try to fix it with a hammer. Which is why we don't have any specialty tradesman running or designing projects.
The Law of the Instrument:
Abraham Maslow said in 1966, "I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail."
A government by the people, for the people, with police being public servants... fantasy, unfortunately.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 27, 2014 - 12:53am PT
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Here is another police outrage:
http://www.mail.com/news/us/2679656-texas-officers-suspended-homeless-sign-contest.html#.7518-stage-subhero1-4
MIDLAND, Texas (AP) — Two police officers in an oil-rich West Texas city spent weeks competing to see who could take the most cardboard signs away from homeless people, even though panhandling doesn't violate any city law.
But it isn't the crime, it is the coverup that counts:
According to the investigation report, eight signs were found in the trunk of Hester's patrol car on Nov. 20 and Zoelzer had thrown the about 10 signs he had confiscated into a city trash container after Hester called him to warn him he had been reprimanded by his superior for having the signs.
That would be conspiracy to obstruct justice. Obstructing justice. Tampering with evidence.
But it gets better:
The two told the internal affairs investigator, that they were issuing criminal trespass warnings when they took the signs. But according to the report, no homeless people were issued criminal trespass warnings by either officer in 2013.
Lying to police investigators.
So what is done? 3 days off without pay. Months later, when convenient.
Because if you let this crap go on, then this is what results:
HOUSTON — A former Texas judge and prosecutor agreed to serve nine days in jail and surrender his law license Friday for withholding evidence in his prosecution of a man who was exonerated in 2011 after serving 25 years in prison for his wife's murder.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-judge-20131109,0,6232637.story#ixzz2uUzoU5aC[/quote]
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 27, 2014 - 01:00am PT
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Well, at least these five cops managed to actually get a take down of this one little guy. They had to kill him, of course, (right in front of his wife) and he allegedly had not done anything wrong (but again the cops created another situation where they got to kill somebody). Just another day in the life of a LEO.
And the reason given? He was killed because he did not SHOW ID.
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cuvvy
Sport climber
arkansas
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Feb 27, 2014 - 01:08am PT
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It is true police spend a lot of time performing silly services. More drunk driver road blocks would be better than pulling people over for an few miles over the speed limit.
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