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Da_Dweeb
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Jan 17, 2008 - 08:07pm PT
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Survival - Given that neither Mark nor Richard have responded to this topic in 400 posts, that statement holds water like a sieve. Meanwhile, Grossman/Mimi still can't seem to find the off switch.
LoveGasoline-
Is this what is meant by 'a chip off the old block'?
That's a good one! But anyone with half a brain can see that for all my respect for him Mark and I are nothing alike, and I've never claimed to be half the man he is. Say what you will. They’ve had that coming since 5 threads back.
But while we're on your post...
My comment was directed to Clint Cummins' notion that this thread persists solely for Steve G's "entertainment and delight in insulting others".
You know, that brings up a good point - just what is this thread all about?
Mimi, Grossman –
What is it that you want here? You've pressed your point that Smith and Jensen are buffoons who were lucky to find El Cap let alone climb it, that WoS is Yosemite's greatest POS and that any self-respecting climber could do it, but no one does because it is ascetically vacuous (Sorry, I guess that was sounding more Braun than Grossman). Why are we still going on unless this thread is actually about you?
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WBraun
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Jan 17, 2008 - 08:35pm PT
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Dweeb, What's this thread about?
It's about people. That big ass rock is secondary.
People (all of us) are social birds. We like to talk.
Yackity yack yack yack yack
Yap yap yap ....
And you Mr. dweeb are included, aren't you glad?
In the prison house the inmates are restless because they have no life, that includes you, me and everyone else on this planet that is in the conditioned state of consciousness.
We'll dig a tunnel and escape ...... where's your shovel?
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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Jan 17, 2008 - 08:36pm PT
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Da Dweeb,
I mean this was like 3 days ago that he got in on that other post. Look at the Bill Russell appreciation thread and you'll see what I mean.
Edit: Like a sieve eh?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jan 17, 2008 - 09:02pm PT
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Buses are only $1.25 in Wa? That's pretty good, isn't it?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2008 - 09:25pm PT
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Da Dweeb- do you think that you have accomplished anything by sticking up for those honorable gentlemen when they haven't even got the integrity and guts to deal with some real heated discussion and come on this thread.
Just in case my OP wasn't clear enough, the Bill Russell mock sermonette/intervention post by Richard threw the whole machine into high gear. He just couldn't help himself and got hammered on yet again. Getting hammered on is Richard's raison d'etre on so many levels. This thread is far from over with respect to the details of interest. Check it out or not.
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Jan 17, 2008 - 09:42pm PT
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Survival -
Point well taken, I didn't see the thread. Ayup, I'll eat those words, and they taste like sieve.
Steve –
You still haven’t answered my question. What do you hope to achieve with this thread?
WBraun -
My shovel is firmly in hand. I've been needing it to shovel through all the BS around here.
On rare occasion though, we two have the opportunity to agree. This is a thread about people. Not about the climb, not about Wings of Steel, but about people. But as it's no longer about the climb but just about people and mudslinging, I propose we rename it the Mud Falcon thread and be done with it.
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yo
climber
The Eye of the Snail
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Jan 17, 2008 - 09:57pm PT
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How bout we rename the route the Mud Falcon?
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 17, 2008 - 09:58pm PT
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Streak of the Mud Falcon.
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Jan 17, 2008 - 10:04pm PT
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So did Mimi or Steve Sh#t on the ropes?
Juan
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 17, 2008 - 10:08pm PT
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I am Spartacus. We all sh#t on the ropes.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 17, 2008 - 10:10pm PT
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Hail Spartacus!
No, I am Spartacus!
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 17, 2008 - 10:18pm PT
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Just so you all know .....
Charlie Porter was chopping Hardings bolts on the last pitch of the "Wall of the Early Morning Light" after Robbins ascent.
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Gene
climber
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Jan 17, 2008 - 10:34pm PT
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Charlie Porter is Spartacus!
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craig mo
Trad climber
L.A. Ca.
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Jan 17, 2008 - 10:35pm PT
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God knows why they did it.
What is the origin of the term "mud falcon"?
I saw one once but didnt think to photograph it.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:22pm PT
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Steve Grossman: "do you think that you have accomplished anything by sticking up for those honorable gentlemen when they haven't even got the integrity and guts to deal with some real heated discussion and come on this thread."
Steve Grossman speaks of integrity, but after accusing Richard of misquoting his book and impugning his competence as an academic, Steve is unable to point to a single example. This is not surprising because Richard accurately quoted Steve's book, word for word. And Steve continues to perpetuate the false statements in his book.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:30pm PT
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"Granite - your arguments are valid and logical"
Thank you for your kinds words, PTPP. My words should stand, and be judged on their own merit, or not at all. If they are valid and logical they have merit and anything further would only distract.
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:45pm PT
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DaDweeb,
man that cracked me up. Thanks for tasting the sieve...THAT was funny. No worries...
Bruce
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 18, 2008 - 12:05am PT
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Pete and granite, the happy couple. One good HJ deserves another, eh?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 18, 2008 - 12:09am PT
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hey Jaybro, don't bogart the popcorn, ok
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