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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 06:59pm PT
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Russ,
ya see, good for you for finding the snail-trail all of us leave on Al Gore's personal internet so fast. but if you found the MM -- did you also find "Herr Dr. Strangelove's Guide To Staying Alive And Happy On The Playa" -- (then) ranger ^,,^ 's plea for people not to fook up such that i'd end up forever having to clean up the mess. (watch out, the sound on that one is all fooked up -- yet now eternally unfixable).
on the same server as the MM site. a server at an outfit long dead, but now the living dead. sheesh, i can't squelch those zombie servers despite my best efforts for years now.
let that be a warning to you kids, be careful what you post -- be even more careful in full web sites you tweak out,
> Watch out for pinkos around these parts.... they're
> everywhere!
hey listen, if anyone cares. upon the death of Che Guevara i officially became the left goal post of all politics. you have been warned.
> "you ever see a Commie drink a glass of water?"
hell, i've seen my own self drink a glass of water (in a dive bar mirror). shocking, simply shocking.
^,,^ (et al...)
~~~
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Feb 16, 2009 - 07:05pm PT
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I was just making sure you were not RockOrr or Lord Slime.
Where ya been for 5 or 6 years! Welcome back.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 07:23pm PT
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brother Chiloe,
thanks for the heads up. though still trying to find that magic Edit button. any hints?
brother Thorgon,
i feel your pain. i have often tried to dhope-slap the rock gym/"dude i have 27 quickdrawls" crowd into recognizing that the schport stuff was lame, that big boys in big boy pants do without bolts. (i then snuck back just at sunset and tried out their schpert routes).
warning #2, at sunset i can be _such_ a dhope hippocirite. though mostly my clown friends and i pay for the diapers required to do it the right way.
arghhhh....
^,,^
(& etc... you tell me, which of my many names i hear daily should i use?)
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 08:04pm PT
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Russ,
re:
> I was just making sure you were not RockOrr or Lord Slime.
fwiw, someone who actually chooses to choose the handle "Lord Slime" is, well, already carrying way too much baggage.
brother Slime often tried to slap the shite out of me back on the .wreck. but, ya'know, one can only be so scary in ascii. as such he never once hurt my feelers, try as he may (though he did so often posolutely ROAR at me).
as for RockOrr, i have no clue.
listen, i just tonight flew my sweetie into this town (which town? think brother zappas '10,000 Hotel Rooms' -- yeah, like that.)
and She wants to go eat then go dancing. and She is pissed that for reasons i've yet to translatw i just keep staring at this laptop.
that said, i'm outta here. i will take my much deserved slap down in the morning (i'm on EST time at present, i think).
as above, many thanks for all insights offered to a dhope noobie.
^,,^
(have you picked your prefered monicker yet? if so, do tell -- but manyana, baby.)
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Feb 16, 2009 - 08:12pm PT
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Now see, this thread has way more life & humanity than our shrill new streetcorner preacher,
and yet so much of the ST bathwater has sloshed to his noisy end of the tub.
Dogboy speaketh not with the voice of Lord Slime, you can't confuse those distinct styles.
But Pip, you don't see an "Edit" button when rereading your own posts? It's supposed to be there,
whenever you're logged in. I recall some past variations in whether people saw one or not, but
thought that was a bug that's now fixed.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Feb 16, 2009 - 08:14pm PT
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fwiw, someone who actually chooses to choose the handle "Lord Slime" is, well, already
carrying way too much baggage.
You know not the legend, of the knighting by Eugene?
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Thorgon
Big Wall climber
Sedro Woolley, WA
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Feb 16, 2009 - 08:42pm PT
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AAAAHHHH: Lurkspert : someone who appears to be a newbie, but is way more savvy than once thought to be! What the hell is an IP server anyway!!??
Welcome back!!?? Do tell about the 5 years abroad..!!
Turns out, I am the newbie,
Thor
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2009 - 01:19am PT
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brother Thor,
i suspect brother Russ was referring to me on the .wreck. i first got .wrecked and posted there in like '03. before that i was actually wasting all my time acturally climbing, most often in places parsecs from any internet cafe. i sometimes think i personally killed the wreck with the sheer size and oddity of my posts. i can assure you that i've only been in this confusing venue for a couple weeks.
and if i actually knew what a IP server was i would have long ago killed off that zombie server (the stuff there continues to trip me up sometimes, as i chopped up a resume in hopes of a specific contract. all true, but all chopped down in the hope they wouldn't notice that i had been formerly concentrating on academic stuff. my thought proccess was "it is dishonest to add to your resume, but not to subtract from your resume.
after i returned to my old realm, potential clients found it and said "then you did that, now you do this other stuff" well, they can always call around and confirm my full resume. but the confusion sometimes gets things off on the wrong foot.
serves me right. and forever frozen on a server someone forgot to turn off as they shut the rest of that farm down. it's like "Byron The Bulb" in Pynchon's 'Gravity's Rainbow' -- the light bulb that watches all of it's friends burnout and die and eventually realizes that it is immortal -- and yet down in a tunnel where no one will ever see it or care.
um, yeah. did i mention my penchant for digressions?
^,,^
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2009 - 01:27am PT
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brother Chiloe,
re:
> You know not the legend, of the knighting [of Lord Slime]
> by Eugene?
i don't. and 'Enquiring minds' are dying to read of it.
ps: i've finally found that magic Edit button and am already using it, like over and over. this is gonna cost me my day job.
^,,^
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Feb 17, 2009 - 01:29am PT
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The sky is falling? Pip the Dog's practices are Right with a capital R? Ebola, AIDS, mad-cow disease, and the hantavirus were intentionally bioengineered by footling philosophasters for the purpose of population reduction? These are all claims made recently by Pip the Dog. Before examining the present situation, however, it is important that I treat the disease, not the symptoms.
I have a problem with Pip the Dog's use of the phrase, "We all know that...". With this phrase, he doesn't need to prove his claim that everyone who doesn't share his beliefs is a profligate know-nothing deserving of death and damnation; he merely accepts it as fact. To put it another way, I have a hard time trying to reason with people who remain calm when they see Pip the Dog befuddle the public and make sin seem like merely a sophisticated fashion.
The main dissensus between me and Pip the Dog is that I contend that meddlesome doofuses demand the advantages other people have earned without the disadvantages, like having to earn them. He, on the other hand, contends that anyone who disagrees with him is ultimately malignant. Given the range and unpredictability of human behavior, it is quite possible that all the deals he makes are strictly one-way. Pip the Dog gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations.
Of course, in a discussion of this type, one should decidedly mention that Pip the Dog keeps missing my point. More specifically, he keeps getting hung up on my words without seeing the underlying meaning. For example, when I say that Pip the Dog's unwillingness or inability to adopt a position external to the world he fights results in an attempt to destroy this world from the inside, Pip the Dog seems incapable of realizing that what I'm really getting at is that he insists that he has no choice but to create problems that our grandchildren will have to live with. His reasoning is that he has the mandate of Heaven to mold the mind of virtually every citizen—young or old, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated. Yes, I realize that that argument makes no sense, but Pip the Dog wants you to believe that the health effects of secondhand smoke are negligible. You should be wary of such claims. Be aware! Be skeptical! Think! Do not be diverted, deceived, or mesmerized by Pip the Dog's rummy, despicable shenanigans.
The greatest quote I ever heard goes something like this: "Pip the Dog's surrogates show obsequious deference to him." Pip the Dog claims that boosterism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. I would say that that claim is 70% folderol, 20% twaddle, and 10% another eccentric attempt to contaminate clear thinking with his addlepated, inhumane ballyhoos. His mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.
You see, Pip the Dog's a psychologically defective person. He's what the psychiatrists call a constitutional psychopath or a sociopath. I frequently talk about how Pip the Dog is immovably entrenched in his inerudite philosophical positions. I would drop the subject except that his associates have tried repeatedly to assure me that he will eventually tire of his plan to preach hatred and will then step aside and let us subject his tirades to the rigorous scrutiny they warrant. When that will happen is unclear—probably sometime between "don't hold your breath" and "beware of flying pigs".
What a joyful affair it would be for Pip the Dog if he managed to get away with breaking down our communities. He'd be laughing through his snout like a sow grinning at her little piglets. He'd be chortling at everyone's obliviousness to the fact that I can no longer get very excited about any revelation of his hypocrisy or crookedness. It's what I've come to expect by now.
You might not care that I can say with absolute certitude that it makes me sick to think that Pip the Dog might deprive people of dignity and autonomy in a lustrum or two, but you'd better start caring if you don't want him to take credit for others' accomplishments. Astute observers have known for years that we must soon make one of the most momentous decisions in history. We must decide whether to let Pip the Dog give me reason to dig my own grave and pay for the shovel or, alternatively, whether we should criticize the obvious incongruities presented by him and his lapdogs. Upon this decision rests the stability of society and the future peace of the world. My view on this decision is that I could go on for pages listing innumerable examples of Pip the Dog's insensitive projects and hypocritical accusations. I have already written enough, surely, to convince you that Pip the Dog says that you and I are inferior to untoward nobodies. This is noxious falsehood. The truth is that we could opt to sit back and let him give rise to nit-picky, quasi-brutish bullies. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part.
Was Pip the Dog just trying to be cute when he said that anyone who resists him deserves to be crushed? I sure hope so because with him so forcefully leading to the destruction of the human race, things are starting to come to a head. That's why we must indicate in a rough and approximate way the two scornful tendencies that I believe are the main driving force of modern ruffianism. A central fault line runs through each of his utterances. Specifically, he ignores the most basic ground rule of debate. In case you're not familiar with it, that rule is: attack the idea, not the person.
I want to unify our community. Pip the Dog, in contrast, wants to drive divisive ideological wedges through it. Unlike him, when I make a mistake I'm willing to admit it. Consequently, if—and I'm bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of "innocent until proven guilty"—Pip the Dog were not actually responsible for trying to take a condescending cheap shot at a person that most appalling loan sharks will never be in a position to condescend to, then I'd stop saying that Pip the Dog's a pretty good liar most of the time. However, he tells so many lies, he's bound to trip himself up someday. That's just one side of the coin. The other side is that he is a liar—a conscious, deliberate, bald-faced, shameless liar. I trust that I have not shocked any of you by writing that. However, I do realize that some of my readers may feel that much of what I have penned about Pip the Dog in this letter is heartless and in violation of our Christian duty to love everyone. If so, I can say only that we are nearing a synthesis of gnosticism and recidivism into a savage parasitism that will erase the memory of all traditions and all history. I'll stand by that controversial statement and even assume that most readers who bring their own real-life experience will agree with it. At a bare minimum, I challenge Pip the Dog to point out any text in this letter that proposes that he can achieve his goals by friendly and moral conduct. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. In short, ignoring this letter can be considered an admission of guilt on Pip the Dog's part.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2009 - 01:36am PT
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is that [S. Powers] you, my Lord Slime?
sheesh
Tami,
prefacing all names with Brother or Sister is a holdover from something i dreamed up on the .wreck, during attempts to cool down flameouts.
i once stupidly responded to Chiloe as "our sister Chloe" arghh, dyselics untie! perhaps a habit best dropped here.
^,,^
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S.Powers
Social climber
Jtree, now in Alaska
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Feb 17, 2009 - 01:39am PT
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sorry, ive had a bit to drink tonight and i home bored, ill keep it to myself
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2009 - 01:44am PT
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Tami,
^,,^ is clearly, obviously, and solely an ascii image of a dog (two ears, two eyes...)
cats taste like chicken.
^,,^ (dogboy, his mark)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 17, 2009 - 01:56am PT
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L. is the resident cat icon person, but she has't been here for a while. She uses >^..^< blown up and in bold.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2009 - 01:59am PT
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re:
> depends on the dog, yah? Some breeds got those big floppy
> ears and others those rag ears that sorta hang, like.
Tami,
so should i go with like ~,,~ ?
big grins back at you
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 17, 2009 - 11:17am PT
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wow- it must be raining everywhere.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Feb 17, 2009 - 11:45am PT
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is that [S. Powers] you, my Lord Slime?
Lord Slime writes with his own distinctive voice, but so far as I know he's got no ST avatar.
Hardman Knott channeled a few messages for him once but that just got HK in trouble.
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scuffy b
climber
just below the San Andreas
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Feb 17, 2009 - 11:45am PT
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Dogboy,
Don't concern yourself regarding the demise of the wreck.
The process was already underway when you appeared.
Your long posts were more a sign of life than a bother.
Chiloe assures that some good writing still appears there,
but it's certainly easy to forget to check and see.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Feb 17, 2009 - 12:00pm PT
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For those nostalgic for old days on the wreck, or just wondering "WTF are they chattering
about?", here is a sample thread from rec.climbing 2003, featuring a version
of the Slime knighthood story, claims about Eugene Miya's human or nonhuman nature,
and contributions from several latter-day ST inhabitants such as Karl Baba (who started
the whole thing), DMT and Stich, as well as the Lord and Eugene Miya themselves.
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perswig
climber
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Feb 17, 2009 - 01:03pm PT
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I'm already enjoying Pip's kinda hypnotic meter and give high marks for Pynchon reference, but if he's read "The Crying of Lot 49", he's def a nutcase. Which might be good or bad, depending...
Dale (preferring U. Eco, over here)
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