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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 16, 2009 - 01:01pm PT
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after a couple years of occasionally peeking in just a bit (unsubscribed), i have finally and just recently made the plunge and signed on -- and with that of course prattled on endlessly as i became [in]famous for back on the .wreck.
and, my brothers and sisters, i freely admit that i am entirely lost, confused, and overwhelmed by the speed and scale of this venue.
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so here's my problem (ok, not my complete pathology, just what i am struggling with at present at the great taco stand):
so i try to follow a thread -- but suddenly can't find it as the thread list forever changes with what i have come to understand defines the word "bump". stuff i was following suddenly disappears. and unless i can remember the precise name of the thread (i can't), i'm toast. the "Search ST" function hasn't yet saved me.
or i post a question -- then for the life of me don't know where to look to see if someone has been generous enough to respond.
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i could genuinely use some help from you big kids on how to manage this... this... this "experience"
for example, is there some way to list all (even remotely) recent threads by name? just so i can keep track. how do you do that?
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well, i think supertopo needs a preschool for the noobies like me. ok, maybe just i alone am so dumb as to get so overwhelmed and lost. so, ok, pehaps a special remedial program just for this moron.
well, any advice much appreciated.
thanks,
^,,^
(dogboy, or pip, or michael, or "hey idiot" -- pick what works for you, i answer to all of them)
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Feb 16, 2009 - 01:04pm PT
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Hang in there and just keep playing with it. You'll get it.
If you're a long time lurker, you should catch on.
Welcome to the campfire!!
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Feb 16, 2009 - 01:05pm PT
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If it's a thread you've posted on, and now you can't find it, try clicking on your own name you can find all your posts there. That will lead you back to the thread you're trying to find.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Feb 16, 2009 - 01:11pm PT
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Save the threads that you are interested in returning to in your favorites.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Feb 16, 2009 - 01:17pm PT
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3 good suggestions already! And for a 4th, the Search function sometimes helps if you can
recall an odd word or combination, which might include the poster's screen name. For
instance, I unearthed the old Airports thread this morning by searching for
airports chiloe
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scooter
climber
fist clamp
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Feb 16, 2009 - 01:22pm PT
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type pip the dog into the search engine and your post should come up.
Pat
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 01:35pm PT
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thanks to you all, very useful info and much appreciated.
hell, that was almost 'terse'... perhaps there is hope for me yet. naah...
^,,^
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andanother
climber
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Feb 16, 2009 - 02:00pm PT
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Every time someone posts, that thread gets "bumped" to the beginning. But you can scroll through older (less popular) threads by clicking on the "Prior 30 topics" at the bottom of the page. Click on that a few times, and it'll take you back in time a few days so you can usually find what you're looking for. I think it's a little faster than the search, if you can'y remember the exact name of the thread.
See? Even I can be helpful sometimes too.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 16, 2009 - 02:33pm PT
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So Pip? Have you given clues yet as to your identity, or will people who knew you then know you now with the "Pip the dog" name?
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jstan
climber
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Feb 16, 2009 - 02:36pm PT
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Searching all posts by PTG should not work. LEB does not. Need more than three letters.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 04:17pm PT
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happiegirl wrote:
> So Pip? Have you given clues yet as to your identity, or will > people who knew you then know you now with the "Pip the dog"
> name?
ooh, good question, and hence a tough one to answer.
people who know me personally will certainly recognize the endless digression and prattle. so will most who knew me on the .wreck
as for the harder part... [hmmm, can i do this in less than 10,000 words?]
um, some climbing friends dear to me, some of them genuine studs/studettes and 'name' climbers have in recent years come up with this "nameless climber/nameless peak" philosophy. in short, they have come to recognize the upside to just doing what you want without having a photographer along and having to write about it in some manufacturer's blog.
they have since extended this to a no-guidebook philosophy, which i especially dig. we met as a group in the wind river range a couple years ago with a group pledge that no one would take a guidebook, or climb anything they had done before or knew of the line. what a fookin' blast. we tried stuff that went nowhere. we did stuff on which we found ancient pins. but it opened up a whole new world. but i digress... typical.
now the nameless climber/nameless peak movement is especially easy for me to adhere to. for while i'm solid enough and have my years out there, youll never find me in a climbing magazine. good by me. i know some of those you will see there and simply am not interested in the baggage -- even if i could do what they do (and i can't).
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ok, if you follow this train of thought, perhaps you will understand my personal position in the "who the fook are you" conundrum. me, i've chosen both here and back on the .wreck to essentially be a cartoon character. my alter ego, dogboy.
my reason for this is i find it frees me to write about what i personally find at the heart of climbing. which, as some have compained, perhaps rightly, often seems to be everything other than climbing.
but for me, yet another thread about which size alien fits in this pitch of that route, or whether a camalot would be better, has become rather tedious. important stuff, to be sure -- if you are way out there on the sharp end of just that route and flailing around desperate for pro. but i leave that to others.
me, i go rocketing off to planet dogboy.
now i do recognize that one has to demonstrate at least enough history to show their views are valid. otherwhise i could just be another troll, or an overweight 12 year old in baltimore with a vivid imagination. so, over time, i pay those dues. i can recognize the point of them.
in the end, i walk the razor's edge between being an actual person with a specific history -- and the freedom that being a nameless cartoon character gives me to vector off in the direction that seems to lead somewhere i want to go.
and i don't always get that right. but i do try.
so there is my answer. one good thing about the ST reply page is that it doesn't offer a word count function. sheesh.
again i appreciate all of the quality insights into this new world.
all good things,
^,,^
(dogboy, or pip, or michael, or "you moron!" -- i regularly answer to all of the above)
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 04:27pm PT
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oh shit!
i apologize for spelling your name wrong - happiegrrrl. getting a name wrong is impolite. and freud wrote that misnaming someone was a (subconscious) attempt to kill them. i think that the whole idea of a subconscious is crap, so i'd rather kill fread.
that and i fooked up the >qt part. have to learn to use the Enter key for hard line breaks.
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which raises yet another question from this remedial student at ST pre-school: why is it that other people's posts can be read without scrolling hard right, while mine come out all fat and off the screen. is this another Enter key trick? or do you big kids pree-write in an editor set for hard breaks that fit the screen?
at least one moron in your midst would like to know.
thanks again,
'special' student ^,,^
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Thorgon
Big Wall climber
Sedro Woolley, WA
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Feb 16, 2009 - 04:37pm PT
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pip the dog~
Welcome, now post a picture, Bahaha.. Then I think you are really in! I lurked, lurked, posted for awhile, and F%cked up about ten times trying to post a picture! Luckily, it turned out to be my computer, not me!!
On the no guidebook side of life that was the norm "back in the day" and I dig that, the freelancer's just need to be willing to leave a stopper now & then and it is a "golden pursuit", I just worry about random bolts on established walls, that someone (not you) thinks is thier unexplored territory! If they have to bail because of weather setting in, like in the Wind Rivers, or backcountry in general..!!
Off my soapbox, this is one of the best resources I have found, just type, "hey going to J Tree anyone have route advice?" and the ST group has your back!!
post on, bro:
Thor
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 04:58pm PT
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brother thor,
be assured that my phalanx of fellow clowns and i don't go off without a guidebook and drill bolts. ever.
and i see the point of pictures. i myself found quite a few clown pals in the huge "Who the hell are you" thread. so when i get back to anywhere near home, i plan to get some photos of moi from pals who have them. i personally don't collect photos of myself (though once briefly dated a woman who did -- sheesh, was that a mistake).
finally, i just saw a rather gruelling typo in my too long post above. lost a few words there. i type even faster than i talk -- or perhaps better put, i think i can type faster than i talk.
> in the end, i walk the razor's edge between being genuine and
> the freedom that being a nameless cartoon character gives me
> to vector off in the direction that seems to lead somewhere
> i want to go.
in the "genuine" part i was thinking more along the lines of "a specific name with a specific history".
"genuine" you can all count on, always -- even if it at the moment it is genuinely nuts.
^,,^
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Paulina
Trad climber
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Feb 16, 2009 - 05:10pm PT
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Welcome, pip/dogboy! from a very occasional participant here and an older-time occasional wreck-er...
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Thorgon
Big Wall climber
Sedro Woolley, WA
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Feb 16, 2009 - 05:33pm PT
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pip the dog~
Heimdall & Baldur would be proud of your "genuine" style!
Sorry, I wasn't speaking "at you", I just have this sick
inner turmoil, that the world will eventually be a bolt
ladder! It comes from living through the "sport climbing"
revolution! But I am slowly moving into this century! I
actually have been "sport climbing" four times since mid-
January! Although, I had to start every morning woth lots
coffee and a "trad route" to get my head-in-the-game! I
find if you want to push the grade, for me 5.10D, sport
routes are an alternative! Then I can hit the "hard" trad
routes with better strength and more vinegar than piss!
Rock on Brother,
Thor
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Feb 16, 2009 - 06:09pm PT
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finally, i just saw a rather gruelling typo in my too long post above.
Edit button to the rescue. Pretend it never happened.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Feb 16, 2009 - 06:29pm PT
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Welcome MM!
RockSci is in 'da house! Watch out for pinkos around these parts.... they're everywhere!
"you ever see a Commie drink a glass of water?"
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
the outer bitterroots
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2009 - 06:47pm PT
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Paulina! much missed, over 'there'
i did just recently, finally, and 'there' explain those odd words i so often ended one of my typical digression-pinball posts with. words i recall you asked about (but i was still too embarassed to admit): "otook gaino, cay gaino" -- my best transliteration of what a wise tibetan woman once said to me as she point at the (then perfectly blue) sky and was like forever trying to rip my climbing pack off and sit me down. arrrgh, should have listened.
sheesh. i was _such_ a pompous moron...
well, happy to find you here my sister
^,,^
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