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klinefelter
Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
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Aug 10, 2008 - 07:04pm PT
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Here's another idea: take the leap and post as yourself. The majority of users here choose to remain anonymous, and some may have a legit reason. But this sort of anonymity tends to create the Jekyll-and-Hyde syndrome Chris is trying to address. If you chose a clever user name like 'fattrad' or 'standing strong', just sign your posts occasionally to personalize your prose and step out from behind the curtain. It's not that hard, really.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Yonder (in the sagebrush)
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Aug 10, 2008 - 08:51pm PT
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Kirk...(Hi!)
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yo
climber
I drink your milkshake!
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Aug 10, 2008 - 09:03pm PT
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Dean Potter
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Aug 10, 2008 - 09:10pm PT
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Still the same ole' me. But new revelation....when I sign lrl it doesn't mean loves red lollipops...even tho I do!!!!!!!!
r=ruth....a many generational family name.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
almost all the way home
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Aug 10, 2008 - 09:45pm PT
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why would i send chris mac an email when he's reading this anyways?
i'm not pushing for you to give me the green labels asap. i never said that! i was just hoping i could use the beer to barter with... i don't like most beer too much
anyways 3 years is plenty long enough to stick with a username
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Aug 10, 2008 - 09:54pm PT
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SS - Chris isn't necessarily reading the thread. He made a post, and if it's like in the past, that's about all the involvement he takes. He's not like us poor internet-addled addicts.
But what is the big deal about this owning your history? Everyone knows your old user name is you. If we can figure it out, you should be able to!
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
almost all the way home
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Aug 10, 2008 - 09:57pm PT
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i don't know i just want my posts with me who currs
and i really don't wanna have to do another email address and stuff
dumb
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Aug 10, 2008 - 10:05pm PT
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Dang it, I was just about to spread some love as a fifty something San Francisco man named Gaylor!
------- Kidding aside, using another name is not the problem. Now hiding behind it while putting others down... I hate that.
AF
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Aug 10, 2008 - 10:08pm PT
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Would it be feasible to ban the IP addresses of the thirty most used proxy servers on the internet?
A number of members have alternate user names or have registered under names nearly identical to other members, (to jest with their friends). But the high power defamation and threatening posts are being written by a small cadre of individuals, perhaps only two or three. For instance, several sock puppets who suddenly appeared just to threaten Jody, the individual who defamed Todd Skinner two days after his death and the bdaddy identity which exists for no other reason than to vex Dirtineye all had the same tone and syntax to their writing and are probably the same individual.
I've entered text from numerous spurious posters into an authorship detection computer program and the results point to a couple of individuals. A writer can alter his vocabulary easily, but disguising tone and syntax is difficult. It's a recognizable footprint of how one thinks.
I have no idea how many proxy servers exist. I've been told these spurious identities are probably posting through proxies to avoid matching IP addresses.
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Ouch!
climber
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Aug 10, 2008 - 10:48pm PT
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My name is Sam and currently residing in Munich.
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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Aug 10, 2008 - 10:58pm PT
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I totally agree with Chris.
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton
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climbrunride
Trad climber
Durango, CO
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Aug 10, 2008 - 11:12pm PT
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Who is this Standing Strong dude? And why does he want to hide behind the pseudonym t*r?
Sounds fishy to me.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Aug 10, 2008 - 11:20pm PT
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Shouldn't it be "build respect for your user name (OT)"???
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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Aug 10, 2008 - 11:39pm PT
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I agree CMac.
I don't like libel or slander.
But it all evens out. The ones that are respected on the forum don't do that sh#t, and people generally know who they are.
And don't take the others' posts very seriously.
Tahoe Climber
(Aaron Kutzer)
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MisterE
Social climber
My Inner Nut
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Aug 10, 2008 - 11:48pm PT
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Nice ones Quartzflite, Yo, HK, and goddammit Anders! Thanks for the legal info, but could you keep the "ad hominem " to a minimum?
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Aug 11, 2008 - 01:37am PT
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Absolute freedom, which exists anyway as evident by the incessant violation of laws, when said freedom is openly supported rather than denigrated, teaches individual responsibility sooner.
Further, it teaches people to sooner recognize the REASONING, or its absence, in the words and actions of others and thus oneself.
In the future, even children will marvel at the primitive humans of our times, who did not adequately understand the value of freedom, and who invented all manner of amusing contrivances to restrict freedom, and thus induce incentive to easily subvert the restrictions created by ignorant people, in both regards a waste of time better spent learning advanced knowledge.
Might you wish to write or say the following, to demonstrate your wisdom: You can slander or libel me at your whim, perhaps suggest my unmitigated stupidity, and in your words I will look for the reasoning for your conclusion. If your reasoning is verifiably accurate, then I will have learned the knowledge to no longer be stupid, and have therefore gained great value from your freedom, and thus be wise. If the reasoning is not accurate, or not offered, then your conclusion will fool only fools who are of no value to society anyway.
So to the greater than normal tolerance demonstrated by climbers, add more, to learn more sooner.
And for the unmitigated stupidity of National Park Service rangers who could not identify an inferior law contradicted by a superior law if you handed them a dictionary, the Park regulations and the US Constitution, climbers appreciate their comedy.
Or some sort of whirlygig like that.
DougBuchanan.com
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MisterE
Social climber
My Inner Nut
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Aug 11, 2008 - 02:52am PT
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Translation: They'll learn given freedom, tools suck
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Aug 11, 2008 - 02:55am PT
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I always thought slander was an integral part of climbing culture...
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Yonder (in the sagebrush)
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Aug 11, 2008 - 07:28am PT
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More the slingin' than the slander....
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