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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Oct 29, 2007 - 03:49pm PT
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It would be refreshing to see those beating the war drum (especially Rudy and Mitt) actually enlist or support a draft that could snag their offspring. I think we'd see a different sort of campaign if that were the case...
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Oct 29, 2007 - 04:01pm PT
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I would also support an intensive educational program including firearms safety and IED-dodging for Bill O Reilly et al. then a military transport flight to Baghdad and a week or so of on-the- ground patrols. Reporting from in the field would be at their option.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Oct 29, 2007 - 04:24pm PT
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I'm supporting Guliani on the Denis Miller premise,
"he's still in his prime terrorist killin years"
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 29, 2007 - 06:10pm PT
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"Sorry to hijack your thread my old friend,"
It's a sin to hijack a thread.
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 29, 2007 - 06:19pm PT
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Fat, you are beyond repair. I'm gonna advise Crowley to give up on you.
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 29, 2007 - 06:31pm PT
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"Why at least one was wearing a Bush/Cheney shirt, he had a weak disposition,"
I'm sure Nature will be happy to hear of his weak disposition.
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 29, 2007 - 07:35pm PT
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Lois, how is it great leadership to stand on the rubble and make speeches and take credits?
Seems to me great leaders are busy preventing where they can and preparing for the aftermath where they can't.
Seems everyone gets caught up in the soundbytes of the superficial.
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 29, 2007 - 07:49pm PT
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" I'm sure he'll wear both this weekend. "
That would be 2X weak, I guess. What have you done to the poor guy.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 29, 2007 - 08:07pm PT
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"You know something that pisses me off a lot is the Fire Fighters who are angry. They would still be looking for bone chips at ground zero if they had their way."
Maybe it was OK for the government to tell them the air was safe after 9-11 when that same government had been informed that it was totally toxic with Asbestos and other crap.
Don't want to scare anybody with the truth, even if protective measures would have saved people's health or lives
Peace
Karl
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 30, 2007 - 12:49pm PT
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Radical, It went well beyond the firefighters to the whole air quality in the blocks around ground Zero for all the citizens. They told em the air was safe and knew it wasn't.
Shame
Peace
Karl
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BadInfluence
Mountain climber
Dak side
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Oct 30, 2007 - 09:13pm PT
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Rudy is real deal. NYC was trash when Koch was in, look how Rudy cleaned up NYC
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Oct 30, 2007 - 11:11pm PT
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Kotch did leave NY trashed and Guliani did clean it up.
This election, baring unpredicted foreign crisis issues will hinge on one issue.
Illegal emigration.
Guliani is positioning himself well on this and the only other real rival (McCain) has poisoned himself on this issue.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071030/ap_po/giuliani_immigration_2
The "religious right" will hold their nose and vote for Rudy finding a Mormon even more distasteful. I did get a kick out of the reaction from the Klinton machine when Romney called her an "intern" yesterday.
Only a Klinton could make intern a dirty word.
Huckabee doesn't have the money and Thomson is in the end not as much an actor as just an other lawyer. (the Repub analog to Edwards)
It's going to be Rudy vs Klinton
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Just in case somebody is thinking of voting for him. I can't believe a guy with so many skeletons is leading the GOP pack and hasn't even claimed to put it all behind him by being born again like Bush did.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3214
Just a hint
"f Ronald Reagan was the “Teflon president” to whom no bad news would stick, then Giuliani would seem to be the Teflon candidate.
Consider Giuliani’s campaign in South Carolina, perhaps the most important primary in the GOP schedule, and the state on which Giuliani has pinned his hopes for the nomination. In June, Giuliani state campaign chair and South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel was indicted for conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine (Rock Hill, S.C., Herald, 6/19/07) and forced to step down from the campaign. On September 6, he pled guilty to a federal charge of possession with intent to distribute cocaine (Charleston Post and Courier, 9/6/07).
Ravenel’s campaign job was quickly filled by his father, Arthur Ravenel, who nearly as quickly was revealed to have smeared the NAACP as “the National Association for Retarded People” in 2000 (Austin-American Statesman, 1/9/00).
The news that an important official in the supposed law-and-order candidate’s campaign was moonlighting as a crack dealer was surprisingly hard to find. The Washington Post (6/20/07) covered the bust with a 100-word squib on page A4, mentioning that Ravenel had endorsed Giuliani but failing to mention his key campaign job. The New York Times ran an Associated Press report (6/20/07) on page 11. Neither paper reported on the guilty plea, nor on the elder Ravenel’s NAACP slur.
With so little attention from these agenda-setting papers, it’s unsurprising that Giuliani’s hapless South Carolina campaign received little national coverage: No nightly network news show so much as mentioned it.
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WBraun
climber
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They're gonna make him the next president. He's the crook and puppet they want to replace the strings attached to the Bush puppet.
They are now pre-programming the Diabold machines. The firmware is called rudy_0.2.15.0013
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