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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Sep 27, 2018 - 07:11am PT
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Gun rights advocates frequently say we just need to enforce existing laws. Well, this is a perfect case in point. They should be advocating that this person be punished.
This is what I’m looking for.
No “Don’t politicize this”
No “It’s too soon”
No “This is just an excuse to go after gun owners”
Just once I’d like to see a contingent of actual responsible gun owners stand up and advocate for punishment to send a message in a clear cut case like this.
Tradmanclimbs, you’ve done this admirably, I just wish it wasn’t limited to a token 1 or 2 individuals every time something like this happened.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 27, 2018 - 06:29pm PT
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In use will look more like this:
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 27, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
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Picnic areas in red states...gentrification is inexorable. I thought that they just had meth labs, opiod clinics and evangelical super churches.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 27, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
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I remember several newspaper articles in the Lewiston (Idaho) Morning Tribune on a picnic area shooting back in the early 1980's.
It was about this time of year & hunting season had started. A Lewiston woman was sitting in her lawn chair, next to a table & car, in an Idaho picnic area, while her husband was out hunting.
Blam!
She was on the ground in extreme pain. She heard footsteps & as she was "bleeding-out" a friend from her neighborhood came into her vision. He looked down at her with total horror & whispered, "oh my God, I'm so sorry."
Then he left.
The woman's husband showed up in time to stauch her bleeding & she was "life-flighted" to safety.
The woman & her husband declined to file criminal charges, but won a civil lawsuit to cover her medical costs.
I've worn orange ever since, during Idaho's extended fall hunting season.
Fritz hunting minerals in Idaho's mountains yesterday.
And of course, I always have a pistol on my picnic table.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2018 - 07:36pm PT
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think you might need to switch out that bottle of wine for a suitcase of Bud light if you want to have a real redneck picknic ;)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2018 - 07:54pm PT
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The cannons these clowns carry these days it would really, really suck getting hit with some of those high tech rounds... muzzle loader season is just as bad. crazy 50 cal. sabots and don't even think about surviveing the razor arrow heads they have.. Nasty stuff to think about at dusk when you just gave up and are headed back to the road and you KNow there are still cammoed up dudes in their hides hopeing to get something.. I turn my headlamp on in bad light and hope they won't shoot out of frustration and anger....
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 27, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
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It wasn't a picnic area.
In the late 1980's, pre Heidi, I hiked to a high alpine lake in Idaho with two female buddies.
Ann got up up the next morning & walked well out of camp for her morning pee.
At the end of the pee, she happened to look around & noticed a guy in full camo, including face paint, squatting in a willow about 10 feet from her.
She was very proud that she was able to wish the bow-hunter a good morning, before trotting back to our camp.
He never said anything.
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
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Sep 27, 2018 - 08:17pm PT
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My aunt came to my farm to help my cousin with fly fishing. She heard a turkey calling and snuck around to see it. Ended up getting called in to some poacher that was calling. Haha. She whispered "sorry" to the poacher and backed out.
Makes me laugh the poacher must be a good caller! Haha
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 27, 2018 - 08:28pm PT
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My bro-in-law is/was a bow hunter
He tells me how encountered in the red state of Catalina Island an Asian gentleman {I don't think they refer to themselves as gooks any more} who described spending four days in a tree on the isle.
Hunting
Bro asked
Did you get anything
The hunter gave him the peace sign and said "twobuk"
Nobody thought to ask how many peeing women he saw
Bruce Utah Phillips is rumored to have told it in his shows
Why?
Ya got me
Bruce passed away
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 27, 2018 - 09:01pm PT
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My inlaw was a bit of a racist and the hunter was Korean, not Vietnamese
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 27, 2018 - 09:34pm PT
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I am only an amateur. Though a Phi Beta Kappa one.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2018 - 05:01am PT
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Rosie was on a green state van but we found her in Wyo,brought her to Utah, Co. then back to UT and left her in Wyoming when she started to stink. that felt a bit redneck....
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Sep 28, 2018 - 03:17pm PT
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not a picnic area per se, but a popular ridgetop dirt-roadside USFS campsite in Wyo, hunting season not-so-strangely coinciding. the funny thing was that the rest of the campsite was clean, like clean to the microtrash level, and empty of the folks what done it.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 28, 2018 - 03:38pm PT
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Bravecowboy! I suggest a better title for that schisty box than:
craftsmanship.
might be crapsmansh#t.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 28, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
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furniture quality is overrated...
Not when you camp with me!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Sep 28, 2018 - 04:30pm PT
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Just once I’d like to see a contingent of actual responsible gun owners stand up and advocate for punishment to send a message in a clear cut case like this.
It happens more often than you think, just don't expect to hear about it in the news. It doesn't fit the narrative.
I've been going to ranges and associating with gun owners for 30+ years. A lot of my friends are gun owners. Some feel the need for self defense, some hunt, some compete, and some shoot for the fun of it. I can't think of one, among them all of them, who would not like to see that shooter punished.
Of course there was an uproar, including NRA, to punish the gun store owner who sold John Lee Malvo his rifle (under the counter.) The consensus among gun owners was "throw away the key." The guy didn't see a day in the slammer, despite the fact that he sold a gun illegally to a mass killer. He lost his FFL, but he still works in the same building.
So, what about a call for enforcing existing laws is so hard to understand?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 28, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
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What rules are being violated here?
or here
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 28, 2018 - 06:14pm PT
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"So we stock up on H, buy a second-hand Studebaker, and start west"
-W.Burroughs
Rust never sleeps. Smack? YMMV
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 28, 2018 - 06:41pm PT
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Nice Rust!
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Sep 28, 2018 - 06:56pm PT
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Speaking of red states: my only question is about grammar and spelling. What the heck is it about Trump's base? Terrible grammar, terrible spelling, and equally intense--if not greater--passion.
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