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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Dec 19, 2006 - 06:46pm PT
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"Official conspiricy theorist"
What are you guys organizing?
Do you gotta pay dues or something?
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dufas
Trad climber
san francisco
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Dec 19, 2006 - 07:07pm PT
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What a waste of time. Maybe Bush and Cheney decapitated Nick Berg and blew up the WTC. You'll never really have sufficient proof, so stop wasting your time.
Focus on the truly provable:
Bush lied to get into Iraq.
Cheney gave illicit preferences to Halliburton and outed a federal agent.
The Florida 2000 election was a sham.
The Ohio and Florida 2004 election results defy logic and the rules of statistics based on exit polling (which has never been so wrong in history).
Isn't that enough?
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Dec 19, 2006 - 07:36pm PT
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I wish someone would come up with a conspiracy theory that I could join.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 19, 2006 - 07:47pm PT
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Woody, lets face it. You and I are definitely unofficial.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 19, 2006 - 08:04pm PT
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"I wish someone would come up with a conspiracy theory that I could join."
1. LEB = Woody?
2. There's little proof the cigarette smoke is THAT bad for you.
3. Edit: Islam is conspiring to rule the world and the only way we can stop them is with extreme violence
4. Tree Huggers and lefties have exaggerated the risks of global warming, pollution and oil depletion and threatened our economy with their wrongheaded regulations.
There's a start
Peace
karl
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climbingjones
Trad climber
grass valley,ca
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Dec 19, 2006 - 09:35pm PT
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Klimmer, you are a f*#king moron. Do something useful.... say ...move out of your Moms basement.
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rwedgee
Ice climber
canyon country,CA
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:16pm PT
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"Firefighters know their *shit*" - indeed, a high school education is vastly under rated. They can detail the sh#t out of a fire truck though. Apparently here in L.A. they can't tell the difference between meat sauce and dog food.
"Molten steel running down the channel rails" - it's really hard to say what he saw, as nobody has ever dumped 30,000 gallons of jet-A into a sky scraper before. As I understand the fuel went clear to the ground floor via two of the elevator shafts.
Moving along, are you saying our government did this? That presents a problem. To you, not me. If you truely believe this, which I know you don't, you would do something about it. You should be launching a jihad upon those you feel committed this crime. At the very least, thoroughly douse your hair and clothing with gas and ignite yourself. Like the monks used to. That will bring the attention you so desparately need. If your 'jihad' is to post on the Taco then you truely are a piece of sh#t. Which is it?
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Mimi
climber
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:19pm PT
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As Beavis would say, "I need OCT Jihad for my bunghole!"
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:21pm PT
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Meat sauce and dog food?
I must be missing something.
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Mimi
climber
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:22pm PT
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Must be an LA thing.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:24pm PT
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I like how all the idiots in this thread put their OWN words into the firefighters mouths that were there during the WTC 9/11.
Like all you dumb f'cks are firefighters that were actually there.
Losers .......
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rwedgee
Ice climber
canyon country,CA
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:25pm PT
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An LA fireman was awarded $2.7 million because fellow firemen fed him dog food in his spaghetti.
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Mimi
climber
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Dec 19, 2006 - 10:39pm PT
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That's way out of line. Gimme a break!
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Dec 19, 2006 - 11:14pm PT
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"... I like how all the idiots in this thread put their OWN words into the firefighters mouths that were there during the WTC 9/11.
Like all you dumb f'cks are firefighters that were actually there.
Losers .......
And the reason we're supposed to listen to one obviously confused firefighter is what again?
Curt
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2006 - 11:32pm PT
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"Klimmer, you are a f*#king moron. Do something useful.... say ...move out of your Moms basement."
Wow!!!
I think I hit a nerve. You OCTers can't argue yourselves out of a self-inflicted corner, and you result to this crap. Just proving the point when your arguements are groundless, you result to name calling or worse. Just brilliant.
Thank goodness I have my Nomax flame resistant long underwear on . . .
Lol, too funny.
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Dec 20, 2006 - 02:38am PT
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rwedgee-
The elevator shafts don't (didn't) line up. Do you have any evidence that jet fuel flowed down to the basement, or does it just sound good?
Klimmer-
Thanks for the links. I've learned a lot from the stuff you've posted. I really appreciate it.
Jay
PS, my log in got screwed up, so I resigned up, and lost the Woodcraft handle.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 20, 2006 - 10:19am PT
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You still have a looooooooooooooong way to go before demonstrating any kind of conspiracy.
Have a nice day.
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Mimi
climber
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Dec 20, 2006 - 11:09am PT
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Have you ever seen a fuel fire? I guess you must be assuming that 25,000-30,000 gallons of Jet A vaporized on impact. And I guess you don't accept the temperature range at which steel melts.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 20, 2006 - 12:05pm PT
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Folks who wish to demonstrate a conspiracy would do well to look at the money and personnel trail to log how the administration had connections with the event and lied about it at many times. Also worth publicizing are details about the war games Cheney commanded on 9-11 itself. The 9-11 commission seemed to whitewash that.
There is a minimum level of conspiracy in the Administration that's easy to prove and folks still aren't very aware of it. That is the lies they told to make it appear that it happened out of the blue and lies they told to cover up their miserable performance in responding. Why did Bush say to reporters that he saw the first plane hit the towers before he read "my pet goat" to the kids? Why did Rice and others say "nobody could have imagined they would use planes as weapons" when it is now obvious that there were repeated reports and even exercises with that scenario in mind? Did Dick Cheney issue stand down orders or not?
Forget the demolition stuff. Find out why the Pakistani Isi chief ordered a terrorist to wire Mohammed Atta $100,000, and then ask why that same chief was meeting with top administration officials on 9-11 itself. co-inky-dink? Who know but we should get the answers because it's still possible to dig there.
Peace
karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 20, 2006 - 01:47pm PT
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I saw the collapses begin at the collision sites. Could somebody please explain how the "demolition charges" could be located so precisely at the collision sites?
And then how these charges could be relatively undamaged by the collision and subsequent extended fire in order to detonate subsequently?
What absurdly insulting hogwash!
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