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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 17, 2016 - 06:48pm PT
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Flip flop's favorite tool is his right hand.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 17, 2016 - 06:50pm PT
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You're looking like a nail
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 17, 2016 - 07:09pm PT
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A bunch of d ickheads arguing about a lame ass trailer.
Awesome!!!
Thanks for the stoke supertopo!
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Peater
Trad climber
Salt Lake City Ut.
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Dec 17, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
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Hummmm
I came back to this thread to learn something. But maybe that's not going to happen.
I live in a too big house and would absolutely love to live in a little shitbox trailer house in a nice place.
I'm not shy for knocking trailer trash but at this point in my life I could see it happen for me. All I need is for the toilet to flush, the shower to work (hot water of course), a stove would be cool.
What more could you need ce'pt a good dog, a place to buy liquor near by and a nice view.
I'm totally serious
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Dec 17, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
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Okay Pud and Flip Flop...now that we've got the junior high mean girl stuff out of the way...
There are some pretty amazing designs being done on these rigs. Too many links to mention, but creative options, galore.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Dec 17, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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the problem with pricing this is that there are [at least] three different ways you can price the materials [not including labour] that a rig like this would cost:
1. as market driven and a one off: in this case i'd bet Flip Flop is pretty close to correct. look closely at the photo, as there are some not so cheap things in there and if a contractor only builds one, it's going to be pricey even if they aren't paying full retail.
2. as market driven and mass produced: people that are comparing mass produced trailer homes to this, don't understand how those firms get their prices down... sure if you build 100 of these you might be able to drive the material costs below sub 10k or who knows maybe even 5k depending on what is actually specc'd... but it takes mass buying to be able to do that.
3. as diy dude/ttes buying shIt on kijiji: and of course there is the "i spent three years scrounging on kijiji, flea markets and stealing from building sites and i only spent $300 on materials!" click-bait model.
while all are legit, i don't get a chance to agree with FF very often, so coming from some similar backgrounds, i'll add that i suspect as a general analysis of this particular model, he's on an order of magnitude analysis quite likely closest to correct with his $20k for materials alone estimate...
some interesting concepts in the op's rig.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 17, 2016 - 08:53pm PT
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I apologize. I get trolled now and then.
The $20,000 material estimate is a solid jumping off point. And it takes skilled labor, tools, a build site, and a comprehensive plan. I think that the hardest part is making a plan. If you have the skills and a build site, then you're more than half way there.
If you plan on moving often, say seasonally, then you really need to keep it small. If you're never going to move it then skip the trailer. Unless wheels get you around code restrictions. You can see how the plan can get complicated.
For me, it's a version of a shepherds caravan. Small, rugged and utilitarian. It's not a tiny home, it's a journeymans wagon that works as a decent backcountry camp.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Dec 17, 2016 - 09:15pm PT
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Flip nails the numbers. Nahooooo tells you why it is. Steve gives it at luxury "I've got work coming out my ass" price. Pud looks like a tard.
I'd say closer to 60k than 80, but maybe I'm kinder or faster than Steve. Winky.
Flip Flop, a sincere, friendly piece of advice. Never use the adjective "professional" to describe yourself. It looks bad, from a humility viewpoint, and a "professional" viewpoint. Just saying. The worst experience with subs and such I've had are people that use that word specifically. You're either a badass mo-fo, or not. (Also if you refer to yourself as a "professional climber", you're most likely a strong beater... ) Just saying, brah
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 17, 2016 - 09:44pm PT
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Funny how difficult and expensive this small project appears to so many of you.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Dec 17, 2016 - 09:49pm PT
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Those are adjectives introduced by you into the conversation.
If you think that project is difficult or expensive, you are displaying your ignorance, sweetie.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Dec 17, 2016 - 09:50pm PT
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Post some pix, pud.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Dec 17, 2016 - 10:08pm PT
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hahaha... was bored... steve s nailed it... but was actually conservative...
went to tiny heirlooms website [they are who built this trailer] and trailers of this size start at $89.9k
and for your edification pud the one specific thing i can spec in there is a Unique brand 10 cu ft propane fridge. those retail for ~1500. good luck keeping to your $4-6k materials budget... and thanks for the amusement with the "no builders commenting" comment... tis lulzy...
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Dec 17, 2016 - 10:49pm PT
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All these estimates are way low, considering the 1 ton diesel pickup required to move them. Not really an optional accessory if you plan on moving it from crag to crag.
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Peater
Trad climber
Salt Lake City Ut.
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Dec 18, 2016 - 02:11am PT
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Hey Moose
Yeah I'd rather have a cat or two. Screw having a woman, that's just too much of a hassle and they are expensive. No offense but I really do like being alone. Is it ok to say that nowadays. I love women but I just like to be alone.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Dec 18, 2016 - 06:17am PT
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Who would you want to build a tow along trailer house to include the likes of someones else's home's vanity. A 4 burner stainless steel stove? And much more that could be mentioned.
America -- love it or change it. It is use your resources as you please.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 18, 2016 - 06:25am PT
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Kitchens are the money room in a house. why would a real climber want a kitchen that looks like it came out of a slopeside condo.....
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Dec 18, 2016 - 06:59am PT
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I apologize. I get trolled now and then.
I get that, pud. :-)
I fly somewhere around the country about every other week, and I've gotten addicted to an HGTV show on tiny homes (one of the free entertainment channels on Alaska Airlines). The more designs I see come to fruition, the more convinced I am that you can--even with others living with you--create a pretty cool, long term livable space for yourselves.
What makes these rigs more versatile is that they almost always qualify as RVs, and can therefore be placed anywhere an RV can legally set up shop. I don't know that you'd really need to buy a vehicle that could tow one, as renting one occasionally would be, I think, way more cost-effective. Of course, if you were wanting to go "dirtbag--tiny home style" (obviously, an oxymoron), you'd definitely want to have your own tow vehicle.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 18, 2016 - 07:42am PT
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built out cargo van for traveling. cabin on your own property for small house.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 18, 2016 - 11:11am PT
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My whip (wip) the work in progress. I just picked up a few hundred square feet of 1/4"x6" clear vertical grain paneling. Paired with the 8k used Ford Excursion 4x4 V-10(seats 8)Good enough for this dirtbag. Inside out Design lets you live with the birds and the bears. Hauls tonnage. Not married to a Mercedes is also nice. Sawzalls easily. Fixes with a bit of wood and some liquid nails.
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martygarrison
Trad climber
Washington DC
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Dec 18, 2016 - 02:56pm PT
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Now this is a Tiny House, er Mobile Home, I mean Trailer. Parked in the same spot since 1987 on my land in the San Juan Islands. Hasn't been opened since 92.
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