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WBraun
climber
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Nov 11, 2015 - 07:48am PT
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What do they call those little wooded popsicle type sticks they use when the look in your mouth and want you to Ahhh?
They charge you $5.00 or more now each when they use them.
They come in a box of 100.
A theoretical $450 dollars profit on a box of wooded popsicle sticks ....?
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mastadon
Trad climber
crack addict
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Nov 11, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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Haha!! Werner, when did you become so cynical??
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Nov 11, 2015 - 09:03am PT
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Tongue depressors cost $450.00 a box because the gross materialistic carnivores are clear cutting the Amazon rain forests to grow cows for Micky D creating a shortage of lumber for tongue depressor factories...Every Happy Meal sale increases the cost of a helo rescue...
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 11, 2015 - 09:12am PT
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The basic tenets of humanity is to alleviate suffering.
Instead our modern world just plain has increased suffering 10 fold and beyond.
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Amazon ....
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Nov 11, 2015 - 09:54am PT
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The basic tenets of humanity is to alleviate suffering.
Instead our modern world just plain has increased suffering 10 fold and beyond.
The enormous disconnect in the room teeth are coming in and soon it will bite everyone's ass.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Nov 11, 2015 - 10:31am PT
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Having come from a family of doctors, I was schooled early that equating money with life saving was bad form. So yes, you cannot put a price on saving people, but one should not use that to hold people hostage for absurd fees. And helicopter and medical costs are some of the worst offenders per price gouging. The only people justifying the are those profiting from same - and they will always use the argument that "your life was worth it."
The Hippocratic Oath had at it's core the idea that people involved in saving lives should by nature be humanitarians first, and capitalists second. That anything else is a violation of humanity in some basic way. When the equation is flipped, you end up paying 1,450 dollars for an ambulance ride from the climbing gym to the hospital (2 miles) - which I did.
JL
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 11, 2015 - 10:45am PT
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Most people don't know that you can refuse air ambulance service, if your injuries don't make it necessary. The folks in charge will make it seem like you don't have an option. You do. Press the issue. Ask if ground transportation is sufficient. It really pisses them off to have their directives redirected.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Nov 11, 2015 - 12:37pm PT
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We should be clear to praise all of those in live-saving roles who work tirelessly to relieve suffering and provide an invaluable service. My only point is that when a person in extreme duress is seen as a business opportunity and is charged rates that would NEVER otherwise fly in the free market, we seeing the baser tendencies of humanity.
JL
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 11, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
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Great photo hB. I can't tell, is that a headlamp?
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Bad Climber
climber
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Nov 11, 2015 - 01:21pm PT
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Well said, Mr. Largo! Screwing the desperate is a sordid business indeed.
BAd
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 11, 2015 - 01:40pm PT
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In all fairness helos are bloody expensive. A new Bell 206L tricked out
for medevac will be north of $2 million. At $20K per medevac that would
take probably 200 medevacs to be paid off in what, a year or two? Hmmmm,
maybe it is a good investment after all. Of course, insurance is close
to astronomical so it might take 300 missions to pay it off in 2-3 years.
Most equipment purchases of that magnitude have a 5-10 year depreciation
so you could pay the thing off in 3 and continue to 'depreciate' it for
7 more years! SUWEET!
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mastadon
Trad climber
crack addict
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Nov 11, 2015 - 03:01pm PT
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Werner-you look different with that headlamp on and your Bettys at your side. Who's that ugly guy in the background??
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